Did not see this amongst the links. Makes an interesting read. Persecution of homosexuals in Nazi Germany and the Holocaust - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
He (Paccelli) was certain that these children were the children of raped German women, even though the facts spoke against it. Paccelli would later become Pope Pius XII, and request that General Mark Clark NOT station any colored troops on guard duty in Rome, nor in the locale of the Vatican. He was quite a racist in respect to men of color, especially when they were in uniform, and far from home. Very Pius, indeed! Some were spared the sterlization if they had certain "skills", one was boxing, another was on the stage (singing and dancing), and the last one I recall being a "saving skill" was in the circus as jugglers, tight-rope walkers, and other high air performers. When Hitler came to power he had the great bulk of them sterilized without consent by they or their families, castration for the boys, and tubal ligation for the girls. They numbered in the tens of thousands I believe, although on a few hundred were actually forcibaly sterilized. Am I to understand that most of the tens of thousands of "colored" people gave their consent to being sterilized? Also, it's amazing that this doesn't get more present day publicity than it does. Bob Guercio
Am I to understand that most of the tens of thousands of "colored" people gave their consent to being sterilized? Also, it's amazing that this doesn't get more present day publicity than it does. Bob Guercio No, the hundreds of youth who were forcibly sterilized were arrested, and sterilized without either their or their parents consent. It was simply "done" to protect the Aryan race from future "taint". There were tens of thousands of them (mixed race), but only a few hundred were forcibily sterilized. Another batch of them immigrated, first to France and Italy, and later to other nations. America being one, and Great Britain another. The German men who returned from the former German colonies with either colored wives or children of mixed race, post WW1 were exempted from the Nuremberg race laws, since these persons had acted in a totally legal manner at the time, and their mulatto offspring were simply not given the same "upward mobility" as their compatriots of "pure German/Aryan" blood.
I just thought of opening a topic on the Gay Holocaust. This would seem an interesting subject. I was surprise to find out that before the Nazis came to power Berlin was actually a very liberal city, with a large gay community. Scary how the world can regress. Yes,berlin & germany before Hitler, did excepted the Gay cilvilan life but thats not all. The African population and there music in berlin/Germany was excepted and very popular with germans,until Hitler rose to power that is.
No, the hundreds of youth who were forcibly sterilized were arrested, and sterilized without either their or their parents consent. It was simply "done" to protect the Aryan race from future "taint". There were tens of thousands of them (mixed race), but only a few hundred were forcibily sterilized. Another batch of them immigrated, first to France and Italy, and later to other nations. America being one, and Great Britain another. The German men who returned from the former German colonies with either colored wives or children of mixed race, post WW1 were exempted from the Nuremberg race laws, since these persons had acted in a totally legal manner at the time, and their mulatto offspring were simply not given the same "upward mobility" as their compatriots of "pure German/Aryan" blood. Um.. France & America & Great Britian all had Africans living in there nations well before germany did.America & Great britian had Africans since the nations first exsisted, germany recieved there first African population in 1918 when after ww1 finshed ,French african troops never went back to France,they simply stayed in germany and brooding with white german women from there on ,germany had an African population.Well small one of cause.
Um.. France & America & Great Britian all had Africans living in there nations well before germany did.America & Great britian had Africans since the nations first exsisted, germany recieved there first African population in 1918 when after ww1 finshed ,French african troops never went back to France,they simply stayed in germany and brooding with white german women from there on ,germany had an African population.Well small one of cause. No, Africans have had a rich history in Germany, the wiki is pretty detailed on this matter. Afro-Germans - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Didn't Germany become a country in the 1800s? Or is it a Israel type situation where it existed, "disappeared", and existed again?
Um.. France & America & Great Britian all had Africans living in there nations well before germany did.America & Great britian had Africans since the nations first exsisted, germany recieved there first African population in 1918 when after ww1 finshed ,French african troops never went back to France,they simply stayed in germany and brooding with white german women from there on ,germany had an African population.Well small one of cause. Which is why the Germans of African/colored mix could and did immigrate to those places when the Nazi intolerance became as pronounced as it did. I think we are talking to each other at cross purposes here.
No, Africans have had a rich history in Germany, the wiki is pretty detailed on this matter. Afro-Germans - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Didn't Germany become a country in the 1800s? Or is it a Israel type situation where it existed, "disappeared", and existed again? Well that's a shock to me. I have know that Blacks first incounterd germanland after ww1,but there you go,there was blacks earlier on. I have seen wilki web sites that stated that after ww1,africans for the first time being in germany. I think I have been brianwashed about the "White policy"which all europeans countires were under,but I now believe that there was no such thing as a "white policy". The germans protray themselfs has having no africans at all ww1 and ww2 era,I have really been brain washed. As for germany 1800,germany is a much younger country than briton and America but I am not to sure on what year germany was founded inn.
Wasn't Ernst Röhm killed because he was gay? Or was it just a cover because he threatened Hitlers political position? Jakob Ernst Röhm outlived his usefulness to the Party and became an embarassment with his homosexual activities. This was one of the main reasons to eliminate him and others. Regards Tom
I don't know but this just provoked some questions! Were any Jews sufficiently powerful that they were able to ride out the war in Germany without personally being persecuted? Was there any such thing as a Jewish Nazi? Were any Jews in the German armed forces? These same questions pertain to gays presuming, of course, that they were out of the closet? Bob The mother of Field Marshal Erhard Milch, a very senior Luftwaffe officer, was married to a Jew. In the Nazi era, she swore an affidavit that Erhard was the result of an affair that she'd had with an uncle so was not the son of her Jewish husband. This was accepted by Goering but whether he believed it or just thought that Milch was too valuable to lose is unknown. He made a comment on the lines of 'I'll decide who's a Jew' at the time.
Didn't Germany become a country in the 1800s? Or is it a Israel type situation where it existed, "disappeared", and existed again? Germany as a unified state came into existence only in 1871. Before that it was a conflicting miscellany of independent kingdoms, princedoms, dukedoms, earldoms, free states, etc. some of the under a nominal and intermittent elective emperor that was a cerimonial formality only.
They kept their federalism a long time. In fact, there was a serious talk in the 1920s of Bavaria separating from Germany and uniting with Austria. Regional differences were very important.
