This is something that came out of the Remembrance thread I started. I remembered vaguely that my late mother had a first cousin who was in the Royal Engineers and when I remembered his name I found he was buried in Sale Cemetary in Manchester/ service number 2012868 And then the family memory came back that he died in some exercise. And there it is. Much more comfortable with my father and his tankies but am wondering now about what happened to my first cousin once removed .
Full CWGC record showing 19 Field Squadron Susan it'd be best to edit your title to add that bit of info CWGC :: Casualty Details Sapper RAYMOND WARBURTON 2012868, 19 Field Sqn., Royal Engineers who died age 22 on 10 October 1942 Son of Herbert Edward and Ellen Warburton. of Sale. Remembered with honour SALE CEMETERY Grave/Memorial Reference: Sec. Y. Grave 7550.
Full CWGC record showing 19 Field Squadron Susan it'd be best to edit your title to add that bit of info CWGC :: Casualty Details Sapper RAYMOND WARBURTON 2012868, 19 Field Sqn., Royal Engineers who died age 22 on 10 October 1942 Son of Herbert Edward and Ellen Warburton. of Sale. Remembered with honour SALE CEMETERY Grave/Memorial Reference: Sec. Y. Grave 7550. Diane-thanks. sorry to be stupid but cant seem to work out how to edit title. (I am not blond promise). Uncle Bert I didnt know but I did know Auntie Nellie!
Susan, go to your first post, click edit button, click "go advanced", title should appear above your text in sep. 'box' of its own. Add unit and save changes. Hope that helps.
Susan Unit Info 79th Armoured Division RE Division formed in UK Aug 1942. Served with 21st Army Group. It was disbanded by 1946. 18th Field Sqn RE and 508th Field Park Sqn RE were assigned 10 Sep 1942; 19th Field Sqn RE was assigned 19 Sep 1942. 508th Field Park Sqn RE was relieved 12 Feb 1943. 18th and 19th Field Sqns RE were relieved 2 and 25 Mar 1943, respectively. 149th Field Park Sqn RE (from 42nd Armoured Division RE) was assigned 19 Sep 1943. It was reorganized 29 Sep 1943 as 149th Assault Park Sqn RE. On 10 May 1944 it came under 1st Assault Brigade RE rather than the division itself. In Apr 1943 the division became the home for specialized armour. Its RE component was initially the 5th and 6th Assault Troops RE (converted 6 Jun 1943 from 5th and 6th GHQ Troops RE and assigned). These were joined 28 Sep 1943 by 42nd Assault Troops RE (former 42nd Armoured Division RE). The three units were redesignated 6 Oct 1943 as 5th, 6th and 42nd Assault Regiments RE. On 26 Nov 1943 they came out from under direct control of the division and went to the new 1st Assault Brigade RE. 19th Field Sqn RE Formed by 13 Dec 1941 when attached to 9th Armoured Division. Assigned 79th Armoured Division 19 Sep 1942; relieved 25 Mar 1943. Disbanded later.
Susan Unit Info 79th Armoured Division RE Division formed in UK Aug 1942. Served with 21st Army Group. It was disbanded by 1946. 18th Field Sqn RE and 508th Field Park Sqn RE were assigned 10 Sep 1942; 19th Field Sqn RE was assigned 19 Sep 1942. 508th Field Park Sqn RE was relieved 12 Feb 1943. 18th and 19th Field Sqns RE were relieved 2 and 25 Mar 1943, respectively. 149th Field Park Sqn RE (from 42nd Armoured Division RE) was assigned 19 Sep 1943. It was reorganized 29 Sep 1943 as 149th Assault Park Sqn RE. On 10 May 1944 it came under 1st Assault Brigade RE rather than the division itself. In Apr 1943 the division became the home for specialized armour. Its RE component was initially the 5th and 6th Assault Troops RE (converted 6 Jun 1943 from 5th and 6th GHQ Troops RE and assigned). These were joined 28 Sep 1943 by 42nd Assault Troops RE (former 42nd Armoured Division RE). The three units were redesignated 6 Oct 1943 as 5th, 6th and 42nd Assault Regiments RE. On 26 Nov 1943 they came out from under direct control of the division and went to the new 1st Assault Brigade RE. 19th Field Sqn RE Formed by 13 Dec 1941 when attached to 9th Armoured Division. Assigned 79th Armoured Division 19 Sep 1942; relieved 25 Mar 1943. Disbanded later. Thanks very much for that information.
Sadly many died on operational training. That should not take away anything at all. they served and paid the price for the freedom we enjoy today... Bless Him! Sapper
It took some finding...If you can get to Kew this is the diary you want to look inside. Being Home Forces there's a good possibility it will record the incident. WO 166/8398 19 Squadron 1941 Dec.- 1942 Dec. Cheers Andy
Sadly many died on operational training. That should not take away anything at all. they served and paid the price for the freedom we enjoy today... Bless Him! Sapper Thank you. I often think of how the war affected and still affects many families even if they are not aware of it. I knew that "cousin Raymond" died (drowned is my childhood memory) but the consequences of grief went into how his family conducted life after the war. As of course did the effects of my father being 100% war disabled. The war is (to use a modern term) hardwired into the lives of those who are connected to it.
