Royal Engineer Records

Discussion in 'Royal Engineers' started by Somersetchap, Dec 20, 2011.

  1. Somersetchap

    Somersetchap Member

    Dear all,

    I am struggling a bit with my grandfather's service records.

    They say that he was Y listed and evacuated from N.W Europe on 9.2.46, however he wasn't discharged from the Army until 19.8.47. What we he have been doing in between? Is there any way of finding out.

    Also on the first document his Regiment or Corps is listed as RE 270. Does this refer to a particular Royal Engineer company?

    Any help would be much appreciated.

    Many thanks
     

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  2. 4jonboy

    4jonboy Daughter of a 56 Recce

    Hi there. It looks like he was injured abroad and sent to hospital in Brighton-Y list is sick. He was permanently discharged on 19.8.46. I cannot see where it says he left the army in 1947. Cannot help with the RE coy but others will be along to help soon.

    Lesley
     
  3. Somersetchap

    Somersetchap Member

    Hi Lesley,

    Thanks for the reply. 1947 is an error. I should have put 19.8.46.

    Does Y list just apply to injury or can it be illness too?

    Cheers
     
  4. Oldman

    Oldman Very Senior Member

    His record reads to me as follows

    270 coy TA 1938

    659 General Construction Company 1941

    659 Artisan Works Company 1943

    508 Fld Pk Coy 1945

    100 Fld Coy 1945

    Hope this helps
     
  5. Somersetchap

    Somersetchap Member

    Hi,

    Thanks for the synopsis - this is roughly how I read it.

    As the file attached shows I think that he was in 229 Field Company in 1938 being posted to 228 Field Company on the 11.10.1939. This is why RE 270 is quite confusing as it doesn't come up elsewhere in the records.

    Do soldiers' medical records still exist? I really want to find out why he was Y listed.

    Thanks again
     
  6. Somersetchap

    Somersetchap Member

    Hi,

    Thanks for the synopsis - this is roughly how I read it.

    As the file attached shows I think that he was in 229 Field Company in 1938 being posted to 228 Field Company on the 11.10.1939. This is why RE 270 is quite confusing as it doesn't come up elsewhere in the records.

    Do soldiers' medical records still exist? I really want to find out why he was Y listed.

    Thanks again

    Sorry - here is the relevant page:)
     

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  7. Deacs

    Deacs Well i am from Cumbria.

    Hello Somersetchap do you have any more documents of your grandas diarys to show the forum so the chaps can help you out, scan as much detail that you have on your granda as you can, then it will be easier to decipher and someone will help you out.
    Here is an example of my grandas diarys which i posted and got some great help even tho my copys are really bad ones hope this helps.

    Regards Michael.
     

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  8. Oldman

    Oldman Very Senior Member

    Further to me earlier post on seeing the new page you have posted, he definately was signed up into 228 Field Coy (Sheffield TA)
    they were attached to 49th (Polar Bear) Infantry Division and went to France with them.
    Aug 1940 posted to 659 General Construction Coy

    I would regard the 270 as a clerical number within the context of the document
     
  9. 4jonboy

    4jonboy Daughter of a 56 Recce

    Hello Somersetchap
    Maybe he was badly injured abroad or was really sick-I doubt you will ever know-even if you got the war diaries it wouldn't mention him as he wasn't an officer. As Deacs says if you have any more info to scan, please post them. I am not sure if there are medical records available. Maybe one of the veterans will be able to help.

    Lesley
     
  10. dryan67

    dryan67 Senior Member

    It should be noted that the 270th, 271st, and 272nd Field Companies along with the 273rd Field Park Companies were the 2nd Line Territorial Army duplicates in 46th Division of the 228th, 229th and 230th Field Companies along with the 231st Field Park Company of the 1st Line 49th Division. There may have been some cross-posting as many of the 2nd Line units were co-mingled with the 1st Line units during there formation from April 1939 until the start of war in September 1939. In fact the 46th Division's units were administered and embodied by the 49th Division from September 3rd, 1939 to October 2nd, 1939, when the 46th Division's HQ began to function.
     
  11. Somersetchap

    Somersetchap Member

    Dear all

    Thanks for all the info and suggestions. I attach the rest of the records. I get the feeling that it's going to be hard to find out why he was Y listed.

    Thanks again
     

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  12. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Somersetchap

    The people who wrote up these records ought to be ashamed of themselves for appalling writing and thought as it is fairly obvious that somewhere along the line he was injured - BUT - we don't know that as there is only ONE entry of him having been on the X(ii) sick list - BUT - numerous entries of him being "unemployed" by the notes on the "Y" list- then the nonsense of him disembarking in Iceland p before he embarked - then having a month there is laughable- frankly I would forget all about delving into this much further as you will never gain the real point of his service - and injury.. with record this bad
    Cheers
     
  13. Somersetchap

    Somersetchap Member

    Hi Tom,

    Thanks for your response. The record is very frustrating. Basically the family rumor is that he was injured in France/Holland/Germany and possibly suffered from psychological problems afterwards. I really want to find out if this is true or not. However the poor state of the records is obviously proving a hindrance.

    Thanks again
     

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