Prisoner Of War Lists

Discussion in 'Prisoners of War' started by ADM199, Aug 9, 2011.

  1. Hugh MacLean

    Hugh MacLean Senior Member

    It is maybe the case Edwina that wires have been crossed along the way. So what I would suggest is leave everything aside for the moment and concentrate on what you actually know for sure.
    Below is his RNVR record - it doesn't help with your WW2 search but for completeness I have attached. You will note he is shown as a Cook. You will sometimes see the term butcher and cook used but in essence he was in the catering dept aboard ship. Will get that reference for you


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  2. Mr Jinks

    Mr Jinks Bit of a Cad

    Hi TD,

    No I think he may have emigrated though? The ULUA is a passenger ship and Robert Owen (est DoB 1891) NYT715_2756-0784.jpg is listed as a Master Butcher but his ethnicity is `IRISH`! To complicate things further on other lists there is another ROBERT OWEN born 1896!

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  3. Mr Jinks

    Mr Jinks Bit of a Cad

    ULUA / OCTANS 1917

    "Built as a passenger ship for the United Fruit Co. by Workman Clarke & Co, Belfast, she was completed in 1917 and immediately requisitioned as a British troopship. She carried a total of 728 officers and 15,344 troops on military voyages and served primarily transporting men and materials from the USA and Canada to Britain, France and even Russia. An interesting contingent of passengers were Chinese railway workers sent to France to rebuild destroyed railway lines. She also helped to repatriate American troops from Europe and in 1919 was sent to Murmansk to return the Allied General Staff after the end of the British involvement in the Russian Civil War. After Oct.1919 she was reconditioned as a passenger ship, registered at Glasgow under the management of Clarke & Service and left Belfast in Apr.1920 under charter to the Anchor Line for New York where she started Caribbean voyages. Officially owned by Unifruitco (a British flagged subsidiary of United Fruit Co), she was transferred to the parent company, under the US flag in Feb.1929. Requisitioned by the US Navy in 1942 and renamed USS OCTANS until 1946 when she was returned to the War Shipping Administration. She was scrapped in 1947.

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  4. Hugh MacLean

    Hugh MacLean Senior Member

    His CRS 10 - service record from Jan 1941 until leaving the service - should be held at TNA Kew in piece BT 382/1366.

    The file is held in block of up to 60 other names and as such TNA deem it as research to copy it and charge accordingly. So best obtained by a visit to Kew if that is in your gift. If not, there are a couple of guys on here that will copy the file for you at a very reasonable cost. You need to ask for the CRS 10 for Robert Owen, Discharge number 781099, born 1890, Hanley, Staffordshire.
    Let us know how you get on.

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  5. Edwina

    Edwina Member

    Thank you all so much for your help in sorting out details and obtaining the above information for me. I am very grateful.
    I am visiting my daughter in London in 3 weeks time, for a short holiday. I will incorporate a visit to Kew at the same time and obtain his Service Record.

    I will definitely update you on my return and let you know how I got on.
    With my very kind regards to you all

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  6. norma walker

    norma walker New Member

    Hi wanted to get more information about my great grandad. His name is Thomas Arthur Martindale and was in the royal air force. He was a prisoner of war in Singapore. Thanks
  7. Mr Jinks

    Mr Jinks Bit of a Cad

    Hi Norma,
    Perhaps if you ask one of the Mods they may be able to move your enquiry to its own thread? Better chance of people seeing it :)
    In the meanwhile is this him?

    Rank: Aircraftman 1st Class
    Service No: 856147
    Date of Death: 09/10/1945
    Age: 36
    Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force (Auxiliary Air Force)
    Grave Reference: 10. A. 11.
    Additional Information: Son of John Henry and Martha Ann Martindale, of Widnes, Lancashire; husband of Elizabeth Martindale.

    From the CWGC concentration he died on the 9th October was buried on the 10th October and finally reburied on the 20th April 1946


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  8. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Looks like him Kyle

    Aircftmn 1C Thomas Arthur Martindale ( - 1945) - Find A Grave Memorial
    Global, Find A Grave Index for Burials at Sea and other Select Burial Locations, 1300s-Current
    Name: Aircftmn 1C Thomas Arthur Martindale
    Death Date: 9 Oct 1945
    Cemetery: Kranji War Cemetery
    Burial or Cremation Place: Kranji, North West, Singapore
    Has Bio?: N

    England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995
    Name: Thomas Arthur Martindale
    Death Date: 9 Oct 1945
    Death Place: Lancashire, England
    Probate Date: 26 Jul 1946
    Registry: Chester, England

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  9. norma walker

    norma walker New Member

    Thank You so much that is enough information for me. I am made up with the additional names of my family as I did not no then.

  10. Lindele

    Lindele formerly HA96

    would you have a list for the POWs in OFLAG VB in 1941?
  11. Mr Jinks

    Mr Jinks Bit of a Cad

    Stefan ,Sadly Brian left us in June 2015.

    ADM 199 Brian Sims Rememberance
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    Lindele formerly HA96

  13. Veronique

    Veronique Member

    I havent yet been able to trace more information on my late dad , Trever Smallman was able to trace some of the ciphers and sent those to me from his contact in Bern.

    My dad was an escaped POW too , there is a news article in which Tom Ortman describes their escape and I have some letters of my dads refering to that time. This last year has been a bit of a hit and miss.
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