In 2003, German forensic biologist Mark Benecke was Blaschke's office when the SMERSH team visited it in May 1945. And strangely enough - despite what Sterling, and Williams and Dunstan, say...in 2009 Nick Bellantoni was only given access to the SKULL fragment for DNA swabbing....NOT the dental remains! Thanks, interesting, although theres not much info about it online. His wikipedia entry gives it a one line mention along with pics of him in a punk band and the fact he is chairman of a regional branch of a satirical political party, that sounds a bit like Germany's equivlent of the Monster Raving Loony Party. Not that I am discounting what you are saying, its good to read about some facts and research. However, the next question of course has to be if this was done in 2003, and Grey Wolf came out in 2011 why have they ignored this dental research as surely they would have come across it, and have the authors indicated what they think of it?
fixed that for you By jove Nick, we have established that three members of this forum are: a) Trolls (Nick) b) Morons (Nick) c) NICK Shocker eh? I still have to rewind back to page one of this thread to attempt an understanding of its direction/intention - and then wonder why you removed/edited your original comments. I mean, c'mon man, "stand by your word", stand by your beliefs, fight your corner, etc.... but simply editing or even going so far as removing all your original comments makes (for fear of looking foolish?) you end up sounding like a ... well, like a [**insert your local insult for rahtid pussyclaart here**] I hadn't noticed your previous forty odd posts here before this thread. Trus' me, I wont be searching for them now! [YOUTUBE]Jn0yH6i-9ys[/YOUTUBE]
Thanks, interesting, although theres not much info about it online. His wikipedia entry gives it a one line mention along with pics of him in a punk band and the fact he is chairman of a regional branch of a satirical political party, that sounds a bit like Germany's equivlent of the Monster Raving Loony Party. Not that I am discounting what you are saying, its good to read about some facts and research. You need to drill deeper; he actually has a very large media presence in Germany, as a "broadcasting" forensic scientist, and quite a large net presence. The music is, like Brian Cox, merely one side of him. He also made a documentary for National Geographic on the Hitler forensics. However, the next question of course has to be if this was done in 2003, and Grey Wolf came out in 2011 why have they ignored this dental research as surely they would have come across it, and have the authors indicated what they think of it? Because people remember the Nick Bellantoni headlines, we're closer to them in time....while to mention the other work would of course remove the premise for their book entirely!
Ahhhhhh for the love of all that is holy, I've just voted Yes by accident. Can I take my vote back please? Honestly I voted by accident. There I was considering my options when a colleague asked "D'ya want a cuppa" and by some weird mental block I clicked Yes instead of answering yes. I would like it put on record that my vote "yes" was to the question "Ger, Do you want a cup of tea".
Did he survive WW1? Are you sure Diane? How do we know that its him? He was in a hospital at the War's end, he could have died and been replaced by Anton Drexler the original founder of the National Socialists. Just sayin. Its all very shadowy and conspiratorial in here, Tales of U-Boats and deniers and if we keep this up someone is sure to mention the Da Vinci code, Doh! I've just done it. I'm pretty sure that he didnt survive the war, whichever war you are talking about.
Was this the fella who was related to the Liverpool Hitlers, or the Greater Linz Hitlers? Actually I think his uncle used to live about a mile from us, yeah he was the lad used to buy his rashers in FXB's, you know the Butchers off Dame street. Think he used to drink down in the Dockers of a Wednesday, grand voice he had. Always singing that Harry Secombe number "If I ruled the world", haha that was his partypiece. Granny used to love him singing it. And then he moved away, married a photographer's assistant, I believe. Didnt last very long as I recall, well what can you do, you date someone for years then as soon as your married you realise that it was a mistake. Anyways where was I, oh yeah, his uncle used to live near us. Havent seen him or the Uncle for a while now, no if he's around well jaysus he's keeping a low profile altogether.
Did he survive WW1? Are you sure Diane? How do we know that its him? He was in a hospital at the War's end, he could have died and been replaced by Anton Drexler the original founder of the National Socialists. Just sayin. You know - that's a very interesting theory. After all...Hitler was temporarily blinded; he wouldn't have been able to tell in the mirror if he was himself or not!!!
Surely the original question is all about Historical evidence. I have only read evidence that Hitler is dead. All other theories have been explored and repudiated with enough evidence for the real Historians of WW2 to know what really happened. By continually answering and rebutting with good evidence, all the theories put forward, we are just feeding revisionism. I have read this thread from start to finish and now am totally bored as I find the questioner clearly has his own agenda. Regards Tom
Right folks, if you thought Grey Wolf was a fairy story, how about this. There is a book out being sold at the Imperial War Museum called Chocolate Cake With Hitler, and the author is doing a book signing there. So what is this book about, well some middle aged women living in 21st century Britain has took it upon herself to write a book 'through the eyes of Helga Goebbels' 12 year old daughter' during her last days in the bunker with Hitler. The IWM wouldn't buy a couple of you know whos compilation of 140 or so British WWII veterans wartime memories, there excuse being 'there wasn't room in the shop' but they're selling this pap.
Really just pure, idiotic tripe... Even if I may agree with the general intent of the poster, still I find him culturally and gastronomically insensitive: Sir! I can assure you some members are quite fond of tripe! It's quite good :exactly:
Hitler? Survive the war? Of course he did. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Patrick_Stuart-Houston You were not specific as to which Hitler you were referring to.
There is a book out being sold at the Imperial War Museum called Chocolate Cake With Hitler, and the author is doing a book signing there. So what is this book about, well some middle aged women living in 21st century Britain has took it upon herself to write a book 'through the eyes of Helga Goebbels' 12 year old daughter' during her last days in the bunker with Hitler. Well, I actually have no issues with a fiction IF it's clearly marked as such, or a reconstruction, or whatever. Just well enough marked that noone takes it as historical fact. You'll find fictionalised recontructions, especially aimed at kids or young adults, at a lot of "heritage sites" nowadays, they have their place.
I usually avoid this sort of thread but just quickly scanned through all the posts. I know Phylo enjoys engaging in this sort of discussion but, in my opinion, it does the WW2Talk forum, a highly regarded discussion and research source, no credit. It is up to Admin/Mods whether this thread continues but my own feeling is that it should be closed.