P.O.W. Camp number 52

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  1. vitellino

    vitellino Senior Member

    Pleased that you are finding it interesting. It was absolutely fascinating doing all the research,

  2. vitellino

    vitellino Senior Member

    Hello Brendan,

    Pleased you like it.

    If you to send me something about your grandfther I will post it on the site - a photo or an anecdote.


  3. Boyd Wright

    Boyd Wright New Member

    Hi. Is this thread still active? I'm researching my fathers war record. He was William Wright a Chief ERA on HMS Cachalot which was scuttled in the Med in July 1941 and he was then POW till March 1943 when he was repatriated in ( I think ) in a swop of navy personnel. I'm trying to find what POW camp he was in. I think it may have been PG52 . I also was wondering how you can find if he was part of that repatriation.
  4. vitellino

    vitellino Senior Member

    Hello Boyd,

    The only way to be certain which camp he was in is to send for his service records, as the camp register prepared by the International Red Cross was issued in August 1943 so clearly he isn't in it (below is an extract)

    Unfortunately with Covid restrictrions I don't think my contact up at PG 52 will be able to visit the Signals Museum where all the prisoner of war record cards are held.

    There may be a file in the National Archives dealing with this repatriation - I will have a look.



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  5. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    WW2 Exchange and Repatriation Voyages

    This site says
    Udated July 9, 2011
    Find Passenger Lists and Crew Lists on Ancestry.com
    You can find information about passengers and crew on the Gripsholm's two long repatriation voyages on Ancestry.com by entering Gripsholm and the year 1942 or 1943 in the search fields for passenger lists and immigration documents.
    The historical documents at ancestry.com can often show family members, occupations,
    birth and marriage dates, addresses, and more for your ancestors. With billions of records, ancestry.com has the largest online collection of genealogical documents anywhere in the world.

    I have yet to make this work, and there is also another vessel named 'Drottningholm' that also made repatriation voyages

    Perhaps someone else can make it work

  6. Boyd Wright

    Boyd Wright New Member

    Thanks for those. I will try ancestry.com
    Vitellino that would be great, thanks. I do have my fathers complete and original service records. It just gives him POW from 5/8/1941 (although Cachalot was scuttled on 30/7) to 31/3//1943 and is silent on where. His service number was C/MX 51426
  7. GeoffMNZ

    GeoffMNZ Well-Known Member

    From my research their where a small number of repatriations about that time. My own father, who had been in PD66, PG52 and PG202 (Lucca), was repariated as follows;
    Repatriation Train leaves Lucca Thursday, 1 April 1943
    Repatriation Train Reaches Lisbon - boards hospital ship Newfoundland Sunday, 18 April 1943
    Prev. rep. P.O.W Now repatriated. Safe in U.K. Monday, 26 April 1943.
    I will look for the details of a prior repatriation and post info.
    Another source is to look at the casualty lists for the period. These are found on one of the paid sites and are searchable by name & number.
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  8. vitellino

    vitellino Senior Member

    Here's the file you want, Boyd. I don't know whether or not it contains any names.

    Repatriation of Allied prisoners of war from Italy: 21 March 1943 | The National Archives

    Catalogue description: Repatriation of Allied prisoners of war from Italy: 21 March 1943

    ADM 358/1508

    Repatriation of Allied prisoners of war from Italy: 21 March 1943

    1943 Jan 01 - 1943 Dec 31

    Held by:
    The National Archives, Kew

    Former reference in its original department:
    CW(C) 180/43

    Legal status:
    Public Record(s)

    Closure status:
    Open Document, Open Description

    Access conditions:
    Open on Transfer

    Record opening date:
    19 October 2012

    Another thought - have you tried the Submarine Museum at Gosport?

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  9. GeoffMNZ

    GeoffMNZ Well-Known Member

    Have a look at this thread as there is some info sources, and I have posted about 2 books that may be of interest.
    "Allied POW repatriations from Europe"
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  10. Boyd Wright

    Boyd Wright New Member

    Thanks for all the above. I intend going to the national archives in June to do a bit of digging

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