Orde Wingate & other Arlington burials

When I was In Washington DC a few years back I went to Arlington National Cemetary... I saw the grave of General Orde Wingate and i was curious why he was buried theyre and not int the UK... any ideas on this one?

 

Thanx much... I always wondered. he sure was a long way from home ya know, made me feel kinda bad his people couldnt pay respects easily

 

Ranger -
also in that same cemetery you will find the grave - and statue of Field Marshal Sir John Dill who was the Chief of the Imperial General Staff (CIGS) prior to Gen Alan Brooke taking on that job.
he was the liason with your Gen George Marshal in 1941/42 and attended many joint conferences and was a great assistance in interpreting both sides of the many arguements which cropped up. Marshal thought the world of him and pressed for his burial at Arlington, when he died in Washington.
Cheers

 

There's a few more Brits to keep him company.

CWGC :: Cemetery Details

There's quite a mixed bag in there and one other name I recognise from reading 1940 books - Field Marshall John Dill.

 

well hes in good company i got some ranger brothers in theyre with him...


Rest In Peace... Casey. RLTW!

 

Ranger -
This will fill you in on Sir John Dill...

John Dill - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

yeah ill take em of my sd card and load em up onto photo bucket. Most pics are of buddies ive lost ill admit... It was kind of emotional for me the day I went, I didnt leave dry eyed.

 

I saw General Dills grave and i was curious his momument was HUGE.. hes not far from the boxer Joe Louis's Grave... Must have been one hell of a man to merit such a fine monument.

 

Pilot Officer Milne died on a World War II air mission while serving with a U. S. Aircrew on November 26, 1942. He was a member of a multinational flight crew whose remains were discovered in New Guinea in 1989. Since his remains, and those of the United States Army Air Corps Technical Sergeant (Joseph E. Paul), were individually unidentifiable, they were buried together in the same casket in grave 4754, Section 34, Arlington National Cemetery.

This information was researched, and then located, due to a number of inquiries received from Australian citizens in November 1997. As far as can be determined, he is the only Australian thus far buried in Arlington National Cemetery.



Each ANZAC Day 25 April, (our equivalent of the American Veterans Day) there is a small ceremony at the site by the RAAF staff in Washington, D.C. following the Commemorative Service in the National Cathedral. The Prime Minister of Australia joined in the tradition and visited the gravesite in 1997 during an official visit to Washington

In Memory of
Pilot Officer FRANCIS DEBENHAM MILNE
Royal Australian Air Force who died aged 25 on Thursday, 26th November 1942.
Pilot Officer MILNE was the son of Francis Rupert and Mignonette Milne;
husband of Nance May Milne, of Southport, Queensland.

Remembered with honour
ARLINGTON NATIONAL CEMETERY, Virginia, United States of America.

Pilot 2nd Lt. Earl B Lattier, O-790013 (Vermilion Parish, LA) (KIA)
Co-Pilot Pilot Officer Francis Debenham Milne, RAAF 33516 (KIA)
Crew T/Sgt Joseph E. Paul, 13006214 PA (KIA)
Crew Arthur Believe, 16028217 NY (KIA)
Crashed November 26, 1942

Mission History
This aircraft was taking part in operations between Wanigela Airfield and Dobodura Airfield. After take off from Dobodura for Wards Drome (5-Mile), it was intercepted at low altitude without warning by Zeros and shot down. Seen bursting into flames before hitting the ground. American troops reportedly reached the crash site soon afterward and recovered some remains. Two wartime positions were given for the crash site, (1) four miles south of Popondetta and (2) five miles south of Dobodura. Also lost is C-47 41-38631.

Wreckage
The wreckage with remains was located in 1990 by Frank Egiembari and Dave Pennefather.

Memorials
The remains of all four crew members were recovered. Those of Milne and Paul are buried together at Arlington National Cemetery Section 34. Collective Grave 4754. Co-Pilot Milne was a member of the Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) and 25 years old at the time of the shoot down. He has the distinction of being the only Australian buried at Arlington National Cemetery. The remains of Lattier and Believe are likely interred in local cemeteries in the U.S..

All three American crew members were memorialized on the Tablets of the Missing at Manila American Cemetery prior to the discovery of the crash site.

 

Arlington is bacily the "home of heroes"... you have to have at least a Bronze Star or above. Or a presdential decree to be buried threyre or the rank of general officer. If the family doesnt want the Service member buried in arlingtion the government always allows the family to pick the final resting place.

 

Part 553 of Title 32 of the Code of Federal Regulations establishes regulations for Arlington National Cemetery, including eligibility for interment (ground burial) and inurnment (columbarium). 32 C.F.R. 553 Eligibility for burial differs from eligibility for inurnment in the columbarium at Arlington National Cemetery. Due to limited space, ground burial eligibility criteria are much more restrictive than other National Cemeteries, as well as more restrictive than inurnment in the columbarium.
The persons specified below are eligible for ground burial in Arlington National Cemetery, unless otherwise prohibited.[25] The last period of active duty of former members of the Armed Forces must have ended honorably. Interment may be casketed or cremated remains.

• Any active-duty member of the Armed Forces (except those members serving on active duty for training only).
• Any veteran who is retired from service with the Armed Forces.
• Any veteran who is retired from the Reserves is eligible upon reaching age 60 and drawing retired pay; and who served a period of active duty (other than for training).
• Any former member of the Armed Forces separated honorably prior to October 1, 1949 for medical reasons and who was rated at 30% or greater disabled effective on the day of discharge.
• Any former member of the Armed Forces who has been awarded one of the following decorations:
  Medal of Honor
• Distinguished Service Cross, Navy Cross, or Air Force Cross
• Distinguished Service Medal
• Silver Star
• Purple Heart

[*]Individuals awarded the Central Intelligence Agency's (CIA) Intelligence Star, which is considered the equivalent of the US Military's Silver Star and recognized as such by the President of the United States.[26]
[*]The President of the United States or any former President of the United States.
[*]Any former member of the Armed Forces who served on active duty (other than for training) and who held any of the following positions:

• An elective office of the U.S. Government (such as a term in Congress).
• Office of the Chief Justice of the United States or of an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States.
• An office listed, at the time the person held the position, in 5 USC 5312 or 5313 (Levels I and II of the Executive Schedule).
• The chief of a mission who was at any time during his/her tenure classified in Class I under the provisions of Section 411, Act of 13 August 1946, 60 Stat. 1002, as amended (22 USC 866) or as listed in State Department memorandum dated March 21, 1988.

[*]Any former prisoner of war who, while a prisoner of war, served honorably in the active military, naval, or air service, whose last period of military, naval or air service terminated honorably and who died on or after November 30, 1993.
[*]The spouse, widow or widower, minor child, or permanently dependent child, and certain unmarried adult children of any of the above eligible veterans.
[*]The widow or widower of:

• a member of the Armed Forces who was lost or buried at sea or fell out of a plane or officially determined to be missing in action.
• a member of the Armed Forces who is interred in a US military cemetery overseas that is maintained by the American Battle Monuments Commission.
• a member of the Armed Forces who is interred in Arlington National Cemetery as part of a group burial.

[*]The spouse, minor child, or permanently dependent child of any person already buried in Arlington National Cemetery.
[*]The parents of a minor child, or permanently dependent child whose remains, based on the eligibility of a parent, are already buried in ANC. A spouse divorced from the primary eligible, or widowed and remarried, is not eligible for interment.
[*]Provided certain conditions are met, a former member of the Armed Forces may be buried in the same grave with a close relative who is already buried and is the primary eligible.
From: wikipedia

 

I seem to recall a couple of South Lancs lads being buried there, I think they were 'pusher-outers' on an American aircraft that was shot down in Burma, and went to Arlington when re-interred.

Pete

 

Wasn't Casey one of the Rangers along with two D Boys who got MoH's in that Blackhawk Down job? I've got a couple of books on that floating around somewhere in the loft.