No Headstone Only Turf:Second Engineer Officer J.D.Constable Merchant Navy S.S. Empire Pride (Gla

From CWGC
Good morning Clive

I attach a Cemetery map and have circled the grave site for JD Constable(but from the sound of your enquiry you have already had this?)

On looking on our data base it states that the grave is unmarked as relative refused a headstone, but the Grave number is 96922 it is of level turf two back and 6 right of CH to Carter.

CONSTABLE, JAMES DUNCAN

Rank:
Second Engineer Officer
Trade:
Offr.
Date of Death:
21/07/1944
Age:
40
Regiment/Service:
Merchant Navy

S.S. Empire Pride (Glasgow).
Grave Reference
Div. A. Grave 2292.
Cemetery
NORTHAMPTON (DALLINGTON) CEMETERY
Additional Information:
Son of John Lewis Constable and Margaret Constable; husband of May Jeane Constable, of St. James' End, Northampton. M.I.MAR.E., A.M.I.MECH. E. M.I.F.

 

What a shame his family refused to give him a headstone of even any sort of headstone a real pity.

 

Yes Michael

First time I have come across this.


regards
Clive

 

If the next of kin did not want a headstone memorial their wishes should be respected. Nevertheless, he is still commemorated by the CWGC. Does anyone know of the cause of death?

 

Indeed ,which they are

 

Further information received from CWGC

Good morning Clive

I have some further information on this grave site for JD Constable.

We have correspondence that states that the widow of JD Constable declined the offer of a Commission Headstone on a number of occasions. We also have correspondence regarding erecting a memorial headstone to which the Council had no objections. No other correspondence follows.

We are at present following up on 58 Relative Refused cases and hopefully we can eventually commemorate JD Constable.

Kind regards

 

Further information received from CWGC

Good morning Clive

I have some further information on this grave site for JD Constable.

We have correspondence that states that the widow of JD Constable declined the offer of a Commission Headstone on a number of occasions. We also have correspondence regarding erecting a memorial headstone to which the Council had no objections. No other correspondence follows.

We are at present following up on 58 Relative Refused cases and hopefully we can eventually commemorate JD Constable.

Kind regards

Wonder if they could get round it by erecting a "buried somewhere in this cemetery" headstone elsewhere in the cemetery. This way, it won't be on the actual grave and respecting the wishes of the family.

 

Hello Rob

yes that is what they are aiming to do
There is a small WW2 plot with the other WW2 scattered and my suggestion is that they place it near the WW2 plot which is at least 200 yards from the original grave plot
regards
Clive

 

Ah good one, something is better than nothing

 

I have chased up CWGC to see if they have placed a form of commemoration.

 

Re cause of death - still unknown but he was in Halland Hospital in West Bromwich when he died

James Duncan Constable in the UK, Merchant Seamen Deaths, 1939 -1953
Name: James Duncan Constable
Age: 40
Birth Date: abt 1904
Birth Place: Beaumont Anglesey, Wales
Death Date: 21 Jul 1944
Death Place: West Bromwich
Spouse: Mary J.


James D Constable in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: James D Constable
Birth Date: abt 1904
Date of Registration: Sep 1944
Age at Death: 40
Registration district: West Bromwich
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 609


Second Engineer Officer ( Offr. ) James Duncan Constable
in the UK and Ireland, Find A Grave Index, 1300s-Current
Name: Second Engineer Officer ( Offr. ) James Duncan Constable
Death Date: 21 Jul 1944
Cemetery: Dallington Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Northampton, Northampton Borough, Northamptonshire, England
Has Bio?: N
URL: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-...

TD

 

From CWGC

Thank you for your email.
We would explain that as Second Engineer Officer J D Constable is buried in a private grave, we would need his family's permission to install a headstone. His family have refused the offer of a Commission headstone twice, so we have accepted their wishes and the grave will remain unmarked.
We hope you find this information useful.
Kind regards
CWGC Enquiries Team

 

He is commemorated on the local war memorial




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