Nazikinder, Paula Hitler, & other relatives.

Discussion in 'The Third Reich' started by jacobtowne, Dec 30, 2006.

  1. jacobtowne

    jacobtowne Senior Member

    "In the autumn of 1947 she travelled to Bielefeld and applied for admission to the town's fashion and design school.
    'What's you name?'
    'Gudrun Himmler.'
    'Your father's profession?'
    'My father was the Reichsführer-SS...' "

    That's an excerpt from another gem I discovered at the local library, My Father's Keeper by Stephan and Norbert Lebert, original title Du Denn Trägst Meinen Namen.

    In 1959, German journalist Norbert Lebert conducted interviews with sons and daughters of several prominent Nazis. Forty years later, his son Stephen set out to contact these same people to discover what had become of them, and how their lives had progressed. His book juxtaposes the two sets of interviews.

    This is a fascinating and informative work about what it is like to go through life with the name Wolf-Rüdiger Hess, Edda Göring, Niklas Frank, Martin Borman Jr., Gudrun Himmler, or Robert von Schirach.

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  2. Kiwiwriter

    Kiwiwriter Very Senior Member

    Fascinating work...interesting to compare Frank's son, who hates his Nazi dad, with Hess's son, who worships him.
  3. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Katrin Himmler on BBC Radio 4's 'midweek' starting now, should be on 'listen again' later.
    BBC - Radio 4 - Midweek

    Katrin Himmler is the great neice of Heinrich Himmler, head of the SS, Gestapo and leading organiser of the Holocaust. In her book The Himmler Brothers she goes in search of the truth about the three brothers - Gebhard, Heinrich and Ernst. Family tradition had it that it was only the middle brother, Heinrich, who was a committed Nazi, but Katrin soon discovered a different story. The Himmler Brothers by Katrin Himmler is published by Macmillan.

  4. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

  5. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    I've been wondering quite a bit again recently about the family of Hitler. Years ago I searched German phonebooks online to see how many people still carried the name 'Hitler'; the answer was very few, if I recall correctly pretty much just a handful in Bavaria.
    Looking once again at Hitler's family tree:
    The Hitler Family Tree
    His sister Paula surviving until 1960 got me interested.

    I can find snippets relating to her on the web but not much of substance, presumably due to an understandable desire to remain private.
    The interviews on this page are interesting though:
    Paula Wolf, Adolf Hitler's younger sister.

    And some quotes from her Wiki page:
    "His rapid rise in the world worried me. I must honestly confess that I would have preferred it if he had followed his original ambition and become an architect...It would have saved the world a lot of worries."
    "Although he had captured the public, who believed him their protector and friend, I knew what he wanted and I was worried not only for his physical safety but also about his sanity."
    "The personal fate of my brother affected me very much. He was still my brother, no matter what happened. His end brought unspeakable sorrow to me, as his sister."

    Anybody know more; or read any books that cover her and his extended family in more detail?

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  6. deadb_tch

    deadb_tch the deadliest b#tch ever

    Hmm, did I understand correctly that she died in 1960?
  7. stevew

    stevew Senior Member


    There was a program on one of the history channels quite a while back about some of his ralatives (some cousins of somesort IIRC) who lived in USA, I think they had decided amongst themselves not to have children. I can't remember their exact connection to Hitler. The program also stated he spent some time in Liverpool visiting a relative - again I can't remember who

  8. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    Fascinating stuff, Adam. The link to the site about his sister was fascinating. I had no idea she was buried at Berchtesgaden.
  9. stevew

    stevew Senior Member

    found this link
  10. Peter Clare

    Peter Clare Very Senior Member

    Born in 1896 in Hartfeld, Austria, younger sister of the German Führer and the fifth and last child of Alios and Klara Hitler. At one time she worked as a secretary for a group of doctors in a military hospital but kept her identity a secret. When she would see a small chapel when travelling in the mountains, she would go in and say a silent prayer for her brother. Each year Hitler would send her a ticket to the impressive Nuremberg Rally. In March, 1941, Hitler was staying at the Imperial Hotel in Vienna and it was here that Paula met him for the last time. It was always her opinion that it was a pity her brother had not become the architect he always wanted to be. Paula was seven years younger than her brother, but he never mentioned her in his writings because of his embarrassment at her weak mental state.
    Until the last weeks of the war, Paula Hitler lived in Vienna where she worked in an arts and craft shop and when the war ended was interviewed by US Intelligence officers in May, 1945. Reluctant to talk she said tearfully, "Please remember, he was my brother". She lived under the name of Frau Wolf (Hitler's nickname) a name he asked her to adopt after the Anschluss with Austria in 1938. After the war, it was discovered that she was once engaged to an Austrian, Dr. Erwin Jekelius, one of the Third Reich's euthanasia doctors, but when he approached Hitler for permission to marry he was promptly arrested and sent to the Russian front where he was reportedly killed. Paula lived unmarried in a two bedroom flat near Berchtesgaden, her main interest being the Catholic Church. She died on June 1, 1960 without ever being invited to the Berghof. Her grave is in the Bergfriedhof in Berchtesgaden.
  11. Gerard

    Gerard Seelow/Prora

    I seem to remember that a lot of Germans and Austrians with the surname of Hitler changed it after the war. Wasnt the most fashionable name to have post WWII.
  12. Owen

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  13. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Whitepages sounds like some sort of racist directory doesn't it.
    You have to wonder if it's a given name or one adopted later... if they meant to honour the man himself then at least they spelt it wrongly ;).
    And as for 'Analog Hitler'... :unsure:

    Steve, you're ringing a real bell with that branch of the family when you mentioned the decision not to breed, I have a suspicion I saw that and it's since fallen out of my head.

    Hell of a family name to carry anyway.
    I'm just struck by the thought you could be standing behind a fairly close relative of Hitler/Himmler/Hess in the queue at Smiths and would never know. Not entirely sure whether I should care either, you don't choose your family.
    I see Goering had a daughter, mildly surprising:

    And there's an interesting article on Goering's 'non-nazi' brother here (can you really be 'non-nazi' while running the Skoda-werke?):
    Albert Goering, the good brother
    It appears he had some 'Schindleresque' qualities.

  14. Slipdigit

    Slipdigit Old Hickory Recon

    Adam, I'm not sure if you are serious about this. White pages is a common phrase in the US, denoting the section of the phone book that has individual's phone numbers, as opposed to the yellow pages, the section that has pages that are purchased ads for buisnesses.
  15. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    You can be confident I was not being serious about this Jeff ;).
    Just that in the context of finding Hitlers the name can take on a whole new 'feel'.

    I see Heydrich's children mostly survived the war, though I can only find snippets relating to them, & I see their Wiki pages have been taken down for one reason or another:
    Descendants of Nazi Officials - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
  16. Slipdigit

    Slipdigit Old Hickory Recon

    I've been rattled since my snafu yesterday, Adam. I am sure you understand.
  17. Trincomalee

    Trincomalee Senior Member

    I think I watched a programme recently , which related that the invading Russians were told to seek out Hitler cousins in Austria and the adults were sent to the Gulags . Did anyone else see this ?
    Beryl Bainbridge wrote a novel called "Young Adolf" , set in Liverpool . It suggests that Adolf may have spent some "missing" months with his half brother's family in Liverpool .
  18. 4th wilts

    4th wilts Discharged

    i know of a franz goering,who is a member of the german national cross country skiing team.he did very well in this years tour-de-ski.i cannot find anything about his family though.who cares if he is related to the man himself anyway,he is a very nice young guy.yours.4th wilts.
  19. jacobtowne

    jacobtowne Senior Member

  20. Gerard

    Gerard Seelow/Prora

    Agreed. I've read it too and its a good read.

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