My Grandmother’s WWII Treasure

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  1. Pri

    Pri Member

    **My Grandmother’s WWII Treasure**

    During the chaos of World War II, my grandmother lived in a small village in Europe. Life was tough, with the war touching every corner of the continent. One day, as the sounds of distant battles echoed in the air, a young American soldier appeared at her door. He was a lieutenant in the U.S. Army Air Force, stationed in Europe as part of the relentless fight against the Axis powers.

    This lieutenant, whose name my grandmother would never forget, was a bomber pilot. He had been flying dangerous missions over enemy territory, risking his life with every flight. They spent hours talking—two strangers brought together by the war, sharing stories, fears, and hopes for the future. As he prepared to leave for his next mission, he handed her something unexpected: a military briefcase. The leather was worn, and stamped on it were the words “Army Air Force.”

    “This belongs to you now,” he said with a solemn expression. “Keep it safe.”

    Inside the briefcase were papers, documents, and notes—each marked with the word “RESTRICTED.” They were filled with details of his missions, the places he had bombed, and the dangers he had faced. He promised to return for the briefcase, but the war had its own plans. The lieutenant never came back, and my grandmother never saw him again.

    For years, the briefcase sat hidden in a corner of her home, gathering dust as the world moved on. She never opened it again, respecting the lieutenant’s trust and the secrecy of the contents. Now, decades later, I found this briefcase among her belongings after she passed away. The documents inside are yellowed with age but still intact. They detail numerous bombing missions across Europe—France, Romania, Austria, Germany, and more. Each page holds a piece of history, marked “RESTRICTED,” a reminder of the sacrifices made during those dark days.

    The question now lingers in my mind: does this briefcase, with its classified contents and connection to a brave lieutenant, hold any value today? Beyond its historical significance, could it be worth something to a collector or a museum? The records it contains are a snapshot of World War II, filled with mission details that might still be relevant to historians.

    In a world where history is often forgotten, could this briefcase be a treasure, not just in sentiment but in value? Only time, and perhaps the right expert, will tell.

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    This story captures the emotional and historical significance of the briefcase, along with the mystery of its potential value.
     
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  2. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Sounds like the first paragraph of a book of fiction during WW2.

    Check the maps they might give you a clue where hitlers gold is hidden.
     
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  3. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    What was his name ?

    Do you mean England ?
     
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  4. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Its forgotten
     
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  5. Tim Checkley

    Tim Checkley Active Member

    MI6 called they'd like a word with you
     
  6. High Wood

    High Wood Well-Known Member

    So let me see if I have got this right, during WW2 an American pilot was stationed in Europe and was walking around in his spare time with a briefcase full of documents which listed every bombing mission that he had been on. He stopped to talk to random strangers and, having discussed philosophy, art and politics with a young lady, he decided to make her a temporary gift of his top secret, classified information, saying that he would be back for it later but never returned.

    I think that the outcome must have been one of the two following options.

    1) He was hit in the head by a piece of Nazi anti aircraft shrapnel whilst flying over Stuttgart and suffered permanent amnesia, thus forgetting his lady friend's home address.

    2) He was Nazi spy parachuted into allied territory with a briefcase full of fake documents which proved that there was a leak in U.S.A.A.F intelligence. His mission was to throw doubt amongst the allied air forces by suggesting that their huge losses were caused by a traitor within their own ranks. He was given immunity from prosecution, resettled in England, where unfortunately due to him being unfamiliar with the concept of driving on the left, he stepped in front of a number 17 bus on the Balls Pond Road and was killed instantly.
     
  7. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Can we check if the No 17 ran on the Balls Pond rd during WW2
    The current buses running are shown here
    Balls Pond Road

    No 17 route currently
    17 bus route
     
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  8. JimHerriot

    JimHerriot Ready for Anything

    Is the whole of this thread generated by AI, or just the first post? :)

    Kind regards, there's no intelligence in AI, always,

    Jim.

    P.S. The abomination that is Grammarly, and the like, has a lot to answer for (and not just the appalling adverts that must have been produced by it's own software).
     
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  9. Tim Checkley

    Tim Checkley Active Member

    Theory 2 seems about the strength of it, Well the Balls part at least
    Ive passed it on to Detective Chief Superintendent Christopher Foyle
    And his trusty sidekick Sam :your not a spy wait in the car: wainright
     
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  10. JimHerriot

    JimHerriot Ready for Anything

    Hang on folks, got it. It's part of an unpublished Goon Show script, "The case of the missing missing, missing". Spike penned it whilst wearing a straitjacket (secured) but his Quink ink ran out so he let it lie, along with himself.

    Kind regards, ying tong iddle I po, always,

    Jim.
     
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  11. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Oh Jim
    Quink ink still use it.
    Always black not blue
    Although you do have to ensure the paper is of good quality and does not bleed through.
     
  12. Wobbler

    Wobbler Well-Known Member

    “Milner, round the back!”.
     
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  13. JimHerriot

    JimHerriot Ready for Anything

    Clive, I always knew you were a man of letters (and I don't mean the ones available at the barbers')

    Kind regards, C.O.D., always,

    Jim.
     
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  14. Tim Checkley

    Tim Checkley Active Member

    .DCS Foyles on the case
    he found the map that gives you a clue where hitlers gold is hidden.
     

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  15. Richard Lewis

    Richard Lewis Member

    From a 1936 London Transport bus map.
    17E2.jpg 17W.jpg
    Source: London Transport Central Area bus map, 1936 - north east London

    The number 17 bus ran between London Bridge and Southall via Oxford Street and Shepherd’s Bush. It didn’t go near Balls Pond Road.

    I think High Wood is talking a load of old tosh, which fits in nicely with the rest of this thread.
     
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  16. Pri

    Pri Member

    I'm wasting my time here. The people don’t know anything. It seems that the 35 missions in Europe, the attack on Hitler on July 20, 1944, or the one on Romania on July 22, 1944, at 8:30 AM, don't interest anyone. I don’t know if your envy is making you respond sarcastically because you don't have such a briefcase !
     
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  17. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    You should not have put how much is it worth.
    Also you added no context to the subject

    if genuine you could at least put a photo of the briefcase plus one of the maps and the country this happened in
     
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  18. Pri

    Pri Member

     

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  19. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    A number for sale on the large selling site

    sorry the story does not stack up.
    More detail required

    So this happened in Romania ?




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  20. High Wood

    High Wood Well-Known Member

    As the man said, "I am wasting my time here. You people don't know anything". I know that the number 17 bus didn't normally go any where near the Balls Pond Road but you have to take into account the V2 rockets that were falling on London in late 1944. They were specifically aimed at Oxford Circus as the Germans had been fed information by a U.S.A.A.F. pilot with a briefcase that Winston Churchill liked to do late afternoon shopping in Oxford Street. He would visit his tobacconist for a box of cigars before nipping into the Pig and Whistle for a half pint of brandy followed by a whisky chaser. The heavy bombing caused London Transport to divert the buses off their normal routes. It was reported that the 166 from East Croydon to Woodmansterne ended up in Golders Green at least twice a week in September 1944.
     

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