Monte Cassino anniversary 18th May 2014

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  1. BigRob

    BigRob Junior Member

    My father fought in the Polish 2nd Corps, and was injured at Monte Cassino. For years he said he wanted to take me there and show me around, but died before we "got around to it". I am planning a trip out there in May next year for the 70th anniversary, and would like to know if any of you fine people know of someone, or some organisation that do tours of the battlefield (in English) without being part of a package that won't rip me off completely?
     
  2. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Big Rob-

    Try Damiano who is a member of the Forum and lives close to Cassino - PM Paul Reed for his address...

    Cheers
     
  3. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

  4. firefly7

    firefly7 Junior Member

    Hi! I have a blog named ww2tourism where I explain how to get to battlefields or ww2 places. I made a post about Montecassino, like a travel guide to visit the place. If I where you I would go on my own because there are some hidden places you're not going to see if you go with a tour. Hope this can help you. If you have any doubts I can answer them.

    WW2 Tourism: Complete guide to visit Montecassino
     
  5. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Firefly
    Hi! I have a blog named ww2tourism where I explain how to get to battlefields or ww2 places. I made a post about Montecassino, like a travel guide to visit the place. If I where you I would go on my own because there are some hidden places you're not going to see if you go with a tour. Hope this can help you. If you have any doubts I can answer them.

    WW2 Tourism: Complete guide to visit Montecassino


    Well done !

    Ron
     
  6. minden1759

    minden1759 Senior Member

    BigRob.

    I run studies to Cassino. I have not set the dates for 2014 yet.

    Regards

    FdeP
     
  7. minden1759

    minden1759 Senior Member

    BigRob.

    I agree with firefly that going on your own is often the best way to see a battlefield but that is conditional on you having studied the ground and the events in great detail before setting off.

    If you do not have time to do that then a small group is best but you need to ensure that the tour is not just a series of stops along the way in order to look at the sights. That is pretty mindless.

    Regards

    FdeP
     
  8. Rysia

    Rysia New Member

    Hi Big Rob,

    My dad fought in the 2nd Corp too. We go every five years to commemorate the battle and travel with a group of family and friends. We have a travel agent in Toronto who arranges a tour that begins in Rome and maybe you would be interested in joining the group. The group will visit Montecassino and stay for the ceremony at the Polish Cemetery on May 18th.

    Rysia
     
  9. minden1759

    minden1759 Senior Member

    Big Rob.

    I have now set the dates and produced the programme for the 16-19 May 14 study to Monte Cassino. part of the cunning plan includes being on Point 593 at 1020 on 18 May 14 - 70 years to the minute that the Podolski Lancers occupied the monastery.

    Get in touch if you would like to see the programme.

    Regards

    FdeP
     
  10. Yarn2

    Yarn2 New Member

    Hello FdeP.... and others.....I would like to see your programme for this important date if that is ok ....My brothers and i are planning to commemorate my Grandfather who with the DCLI fought in the 4th and final battle at Cassino....and then travel the route the 4th took until his capture near Forli in the north east of Italy 5 months later....So all the inforrmation and help to plan this visit is very much appriciated
    Regards
     
  11. minden1759

    minden1759 Senior Member

    Yarn2.

    Whilst I am running a study on 16-19 May 14, the highpoint of that event is being on Point 593 when the Poles finally occupied the Monastery at 1020 on 18 May 44. The programme that I have written has the group on Point 593 at 1020 on 18 May 14 - exactly 70 years to the minute.

    The event that I recommend to you is an earlier one that I am running 11-14 May 14. This has Amazon Bridge as its focus and, if you were not aware, 10 Infantry Brigade, of which 2 DCLI were part, had the responsibility of establishing the bridgehead and securing it for the Engineers to build it. If you were not aware, 2 DCLI had two tasks on the night of 11-12 May 44 - providing the boat crews for the other two Battalions to get across and a Coy, in this case D Coy, to conduct a diversionary attack further down river. This event will be at the bridge site at 0530 on 13 May 14 - exactly 70 years to the minute that the bridge opened for business - after many setbacks and challenges.

    If you are interested in joining the 11-14 May 14 group, do get in touch.

    Regards

    FdeP
     
  12. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    Details of the Monte Cassino Anniversary are online at: www.cassino70.com

    Like others here I am also taking groups to Cassino next May, in this case with Leger Holidays. Feel free to PM if you require details.

    There is a guide to visiting the battlefields on my website: www.ww2battlefields.com
     
  13. Oldman

    Oldman Very Senior Member

    Thanks for the heads up

    Made the 60 anniversary, watched the Polish veterans remembering those who paid the supreme price then march up the hill to the abbey,
    Spent the afternoon on the ridge and point 593
     
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  14. Chrislouis

    Chrislouis New Member

    As a son of a Polish veteran, I attended the 60th anniversary of the final battle of Monte Cassino in his place. My farther who died of lung cancer in 1986 never had the chance to attend a commemoration of the battle. As a child my farther never at all spoke of his wartime experiences. I suppose this was because the memories of these times were too distressing for him. I only know that he fought at the battle from my English mother. I was therefore quite shocked to discover the truth of the very extreme hardships the Polish troops had to endure. From their protracted journey from captivity in Russia to the fight firstly in North Africa and then to the Italian campaign.
    Travelling alone I made my own journey arrangements from Bristol England. This allowed me full freedom to explore this WW2 mountain battlefield. I took a taxi to the Polish cemetery, to attend the formal ceremony held here. I later visited the reconstructed abbey and then walked down the winding road to the town below. This walk certainly did open my eyes to the truly rugged nature of the terrain that any fighting troops would have to overcome, below the towering edifice of the abbey structure and also of the hill tops above. I was moved to write a poem on my return to England, which I have not shared with anyone, but feel here obliged to do so her. I attach the poem here below:-

    ELEVATED PLACE

    Upon high, sentinels oversee ad infinitum,
    all the land laying free beneath them.
    From a place below the shadows cast by massive hallowed walls.
    Rooted in faith and history as much as to the ancient weathered rock.
    From this sacred ground, none can ever wrest dominion.
    Here stands the arena of this much contended realm.

    It is upon such a field with the seed of freedom borne forth,
    that the brave unrelenting soul tills the dark earth.
    So it was for this high ground, this gate on to a long fallow soil,
    that many toiled honourably and gave their all.
    This their victory summit, incontestable ad infinitum.


    Pay the toll, pay the toll. Paid the levy.

    From this lofty mount a host gives testimony, of the tortured passage
    upon the road of liberty.
    From each promontory pulpit and stony ravine, cardinals rise
    to herald the season of their assent.
    Rock invested with ruddy apparel, proclaims not only of natures restored
    sovereignty here, but also the story of the hard won peace.

    Upon high, sentinels keep silent sentry ad infinitum,
    of the freed ground encompassing them.
    At the site of a Benedictine monastery.
    At a elevated place.....named Monte Cassino.


    -(hard by you will discover hill Five Nine Three).


    In memory of the indomitable spirit of the Polish soldiers whom fought and gave their lives in the final bloody battle at Monte Cassino in May 1944. Our thanks to their enduring faith in the eventual freedoms to follow. -Christopher Louis Zalewski


     
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  15. Oldman

    Oldman Very Senior Member

    Chrislouis
    Thank you for sharing your poetry, it brings a new light to the Abbey and its hills,
     
  16. romanbear

    romanbear New Member

    Hi guys

    I'm trying to find an official program for 18.05.2014 celebration of 70th anniversary but having a huge trouble with it. I've checked websites like www.cassino70.com but could not find anything about the may day even there.
    Maybe you have a link that you can share with me, that would be much appreciated.
    We are the "Polish Youth Association -Patriae Fidelis" from UK and planning to go there that weekend and pay our respect to the fallen heroes.

    Many Thanks Guys :)
     
  17. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Cassino was never my happiest wartime experience, but having returned there once to show my respects, I will not be attending the 70th year commemoration services.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ww2peopleswar/stories/86/a4062386.shtml

    I do however offer all who are fortunate enough to make the pilgrimage my heartiest appreciation of their efforts.

    Sincerely

    Ron
     
  18. 4jonboy

    4jonboy Daughter of a 56 Recce

    On Sunday 18th May there is a ceremony at the Polish War Cemetery in the morning. I am sorry I don't know what exact time it is.
    In the afternoon there is a New Zealand ceremony at Cassino War Cemetery.

    Edit: I have seen a website: gustavline.it (the link seems to be broken at the moment) but it does say the ceremony is at 9.30 am

    Lesley
     
  19. 4jonboy

    4jonboy Daughter of a 56 Recce

    I have sent a private message to Paul Reed who is a member on here. I think he will be the battlefield guide on the Leger trip to Italy in May and he may know the time the ceremony takes place.

    Lesley
     
  20. romanbear

    romanbear New Member

    Thanks Lesley, you are very helpful, I'll try to contact Polish embassy in Rome, they should have exact info about ceremony.

    Roman
     

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