I avoid the modern 'usage' arguments about armour, as I appreciate there's immense complexity in something I have absolutely no experience of. Though can say 'The tank is dead' thing has been going on since their inception, and alongside every single technological counter for 100+ years, and yet they still find a role. Za Rodinu (old member here) used to often use a phrase he attributed to Soviet thought; something like 'The greatest form of AA is a tank parked on the enemy runway'. Holding ground still seems to be a thing. Heavy assault still seems to be a thing. Fielding something that can obliterate lighter gear & people using pure mass, mobility, & protected/advanced heavy weapons - still a thing. Reading all the MoD puff on the new Challenger & the cynicism kicks in a tad, but Mr Hawkes seems rather impressed with what's been chosen, as do other grown-ups whose opinions seem more informed than many. Hope it goes well, and my very best to the squishy bits that may eventually have to face the fight from within one. Interesting that it still appears to be a concept. 'The design still in its early stages' a popular phrase in articles. I'm planning to make a bit of an effort to follow things, as procurement & development of earlier machines definitely my main historical interest. Ought to perhaps keep an eye out for parallels.