Modern Armour (And modern military technology in general.)

Like battleships, unless an efffective drone defense is devied, tanks are obsolete.

Couple million if not more for a tank and $10k or so drone takes it out? It's like Israel's Iron Dome. Send some cheapy rockets or drones for Iron Dome to take down and then the real stuff comes in. We should have learned that lesson from the Houthis v. USN. They can't hit us but can punch our pocketbook pretty hard.

I'm starting to believe super carriers can go the way of the dreadnought. Drones or super-cavitating torpedoes and billions in one ship gone.

Quora link to cost of modern tank: https://www.quora.com/How-much-does-a-common-battle-tank-cost

 

Battleships are undoubtedly obsolete.
But when I look at the potential firepower of a modern “Destroyer”, then you can speak of an evolutionary transformation that has adapted to changing conditions

And this will also happen with MBTs, just as there will be effective means of countering drones within an economic cost-benefit framework
It's the old contest between shield and sword - and there's a lot of money to be made from such developments

 

Electronic counter-warfare (jamming) comes to mind; but you have to find the frequency for individual drones and like the Postal Service, Return to Sender.

 

For the CR2 it might have sense, considering it does not have any kind of protection from drones and adding anything more sophisticated would probably be the waste of money. They do not even have RWS, except small numbers intended to be used in Iraq in 2000s. CR3 would have Trophy APS which recently was upgraded to counter drones. It is hard to see any kind of "cope cage" working with APS, altho they too have limitations (limited number of countermeasures).

At the start of the war in Ukraine, "cope" did not fare good, being totally useless vs AT missiles but also vs drones considering those first versions were not were extensive. Even now they are not providing 100% protection, even the so called "turtle" tanks were being destroyed by drones. Still, if there is no better system around, cope cages are probably better than nothing, I guess.

CV replaced battleships as the primary warships, but they were still pretty useful. USN still used they Iowa class in Korea, Vietnam and in the Gulf War 1991. As long there is no adequate replacement for tank they will not be obsolete. They will just have to find the way to counter drone threats, either alone or in combination with other systems. Because in the end infantry on the front still needs them. Maybe eventually they will be replaced by some optionally manned or unmanned vehicle/system but till that happen tanks will still be present and useful on the frontlines.

Same for carriers. Even the China which have one of the largest AS missiles stock in the World, is still heavily investing in carriers, as simply there is nothing that could replace them. They will probably in time move toward using more unmanned aircraft but I doubt they will disappear any time soon. BTW torpedo threat to carrier existed since the first carriers were built, as torpedo its older, but they are still in use. Just their defences/protection progressed accordingly with development of the weapons to counter them.

 

Rafael is currently busy upgrading the Trophy APS to drone defense capability
And the return of the tried and tested army flak is also underway (like the current “Skyranger”)
As far as EW is concerned, I'm not in the picture, but there will certainly be a lot in the test run, too

 

50 years old? It can't be that long ago... oh, damnit!

 

Overall, it will certainly be a multi-layered defence structure, from what I gather from conversations.
As well as the fact that the Panzermen are a bit vain: The existing cages on the roof would "spoil the silhouette" and something "appropriate" would have to be installed.

 

I don't think real tankies would care much about their silhouette. Mechanised cavalry regiments now.....

 

Those screens still didn't keep the flies or skeeters (mosquitos to our English mates) out.

I wonder if an EMP will affect those cables? During WW II the Soviet snipers would shoot communication cables. So did Lovat's 4 Commando at the Dieppe Raid.

 

Oh, may I please pass that on to my mates in the Panzertruppe word for word?
To be honest: As an old Panzergrenadier, I've always thought the Leopards' nimbus was overrated anyway: Without us, they're just ridiculously overpriced bulldozers doing useless damage in the botany

 

ROFLMAO!

Failure of the Israeli paratroopers to protect their tanks in Gaza allowed sandal wearing panzerjagers to plant destructive explosives on Israeli Merkava tanks. Tank-infantry cooperation is a must in city fighting. I still like the WW II idea of a telephone on the back of a tank for the infantryman to communicate with the tank commander.

 

When a cousin of mine was a tanker in training fifty years ago he told me they were taught to be constantly on the lookout for the backflash of wire guided missiles being fired at them. If they saw a flash they were to fire everything they had at the area. The goal was to get the guy controlling the missile to flinch or duck, which would send the missile off course enough so that he wouldn't have time to correct it. Don't know if that's still the practice but it sounded interesting back then

 

That's what the Israelis learned to do in the '73 War of Atonement/Yom Kippur War. Shoot at the shooter and cause him to miss. A lot of the Israeli tanks were draped with saggerr wires.

 

That is long range. I assumed those were bulk spools and that the wires would be cut to length as required.

Are there camaras in the missiles to help guide them or do they use telescopes?

 

They aren't missiles, they are FPV drones.
The operator wears a headset to see pics from the camera on the drone.
Ukrainians Made an FPV With Fiber-Optic Cord Stretching For 41 km | Defense Express

 

The beach master might have trouble with that technology.

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