Markings and Insignia for Armour in the BEF

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  1. LondonNik

    LondonNik Senior Member

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  3. KevinT

    KevinT Senior Member

    Hawk:

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    Jan

    Could HAWK be from 2nd Fife and Forfar?
    Names already known:-
    GANNET
    MERLIN
    PINTAIL

    Cheers
    Kevin
     
  4. rewdco

    rewdco Senior Member

    1 DIV carrier:

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    Jan
     
  5. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Post #244 really is a quality image. It's a Scout Carrier displaying the Divisional Cavalry AoS so 13th/18th Royal Hussars in this case.
     
  6. morrisc8

    morrisc8 Under the Bed

    bren carrier scout 1940 14 may r.jpg Here are two more original photos of that carrier from my collection with info on the back [ in German ]. 14 May 1940. click on photo to enlarge.
    Keith
     
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  7. morrisc8

    morrisc8 Under the Bed

    info on the back of carrier photo. click on photo to enlarge.
    Keith.
     

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  8. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Most interesting Keith. I hadn't realised that the crew were still there. I feel a bit guilty for enthusing over the image now.

    There are only two 13th/18th Hussars casualties listed on CWGC for the early part of the campaign and both are on the Dunkirk Memorial.

    012 WILLIAMS J 7580447 13TH/18TH ROYAL HUSSARS 14/05/1940 ROYAL ARMOURED CORPS
    COLUMN 3.
    013 WOODARD WJ 546492 13TH/18TH ROYAL HUSSARS 12/05/1940 ROYAL ARMOURED CORPS
    COLUMN 3.

    I'll have another try at reading the location given on the reverse.

    Does Andy have the War Diary ? It might be possible to confirm the crew who are sadly probably buried as unidentified.
     
  9. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    The Carrier was lost around 12.15 with 6 men missing after charging German positions. I'm uploading the diary page :)
     
  10. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

  11. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

  12. Dirk

    Dirk Member

    The answer is written on the back of Keith's foto: Hamme-Mille
    My instinct says the photo was taken along the Chaussée de Namur between the villages of Hamme-Mille and Nodebais. I have to go and check one of these days. Note the white lines on the trees typical for Belgian main roads back then.

    Dirk
     
  13. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Thanks Dirk, I struggled with the Sütterlin but it's obvious now that you've mentioned it. It's a puzzle that the loss of a carrier with at least two dead doesn't seem to be mentioned in the diaries and that the bodies weren't identified (or that the identities were later lost).

    Are there any unidentified CWGC graves around Hamme-Mille ? Perhaps consolidated in Oud-Heverlee or even Leopoldsburg.

    If you can identify the location, it would be worth researching the loss further.
     
  14. jhunt

    jhunt Junior Member

    Another picture of the Damilier Dingo "Nelson" from HQ 1st Armoured Division.
     

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  15. KevinT

    KevinT Senior Member

    Another picture of the Damilier Dingo "Nelson" from HQ 1st Armoured Division.

    Does anyone know which regiment this belonged to?
    I also have F9448 HOOD which the same 1st Armoured Division marking.

    Cheers
    Kevin
     
  16. singeager

    singeager Senior Member

    Cant help with F9448 except its known to be issued too and seving with HQ 1st Armoured Div.

    but F9450 is recorded as being Issued too and served with 2nd Kings Royal Rifle Corps as part of the BEF 1940.

    Thanks for uploading that pictuer again:)
     
  17. KevinT

    KevinT Senior Member

    Cant help with F9448 except its known to be issued too and seving with HQ 1st Armoured Div.

    but F9450 is recorded as being Issued too and served with 2nd Kings Royal Rifle Corps as part of the BEF 1940.

    Thanks for uploading that pictuer again:)

    Thanks for the confirmation of F9450. I thought it a bit of a coincidence what with HOOD and NELSON being battleships and then having the same 1st AD marking.

    Cheers
    Kevin
     
  18. morrisc8

    morrisc8 Under the Bed

    This tank has been on here before , but this is a new photo of it, has what looks like CFCEN on the side. photo from my collection. German looks like he has had tooth ache.
    Keith
     

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  19. May1940

    May1940 Senior Member

    This tank has been on here before , but this is a new photo of it, has what looks like CFCEN on the side. photo from my collection. German looks like he has had tooth ache.
    Keith

    Keith

    This is a good clear picture - apart from the name. I think it is Greenock with the misssing 'ock' hidden behind the sidelight and - more controversially - I think the German with the toothache may have been added in afterwards.

    Andrew
     
  20. LondonNik

    LondonNik Senior Member

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