Looking for Info on Front-Stalag 221 Rennes France

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  1. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Thanks

    Just that when searching for it there are 89 files

    Search results: Front Stalag 133 Rennes | The National Archives

    Example
    Reference: WO 416/41/182
    Description:
    Name: Gerard Brett.
    Date of Birth: 27 March 1915.
    Place of Birth: Belfast.
    Service: [British Army].
    Rank: Lieutenant.
    Regiment/Unit/Squadron: [The Royal Ulster Rifles].
    Service Number: 126498.
    Date of Capture: [unspecified].
    Theatre of Capture: [unspecified].
    Camp Name/Number: Front-Stalag 133 Rennes.

    TD
     
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  2. sirjahn

    sirjahn Member

    Captain John England has a quite extensive POW report that describes 133 real well.
     
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  3. Tredaou

    Tredaou New Member

    I have these details : Frontstalags 133 and 127, headed by Kriegsgefangenen-Bezirk IX of Rennes, were divided into several barracks or camps in the city : the camp of the Parc des Sports on the road to Lorient, with 800 prisoners, the camp De la Marne on the road to Redon, with a capacity of 1,700 prisoners, which was used after WWII for German POW, the Camp de Guines (located Boulevard de Guines), the Camp Margueritte near the barracks of same name (18 barracks for a capacity of 2,000 prisoners, the annex of Jacques-Cartier prison, and the Lazarett (at the upper elementary school).
     
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  4. Tredaou

    Tredaou New Member

    Hello/Bonjour,

    At the moment it is not possible to order files from NA Kew, due to the pandemic. I will come back to you as soon as the copies of these records will be in my hands. Sirjahn, I would have been very pleased to have the excerpt from the “List of UK wounded POWs that were recorded at Rennes” that mentions Cattermoul. It is possible? In the Operational Record Book of the Squadron, Cattermoul is just Flying Officer, not Flying Lieutenant.

    Best regards,
    Frederic
     
  5. alieneyes

    alieneyes Senior Member

    Hello,

    Cattermoul was promoted Flight Lieutenant wef 25 June 1944.

    Page 4684 | Supplement 36744, 10 October 1944 | Lon...

    Regards,

    Dave
     
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  6. Tredaou

    Tredaou New Member

    Hello Dave,

    Thank you for this info, I better understand.

    Best regards,
    Frederic
     
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    Massie New Member

     
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    brithm Senior Member

  9. william vaucourt

    william vaucourt New Member

    You can also find on CICR review a condensed of the visits. The reports are in french but perhaps you can find the english versions.S1026881200015245a.pdf any engine will find it
    It seems to be organised in Zweiglager 133, zweiglager 221 both for quarantine and frontstalag 133 and a lazaret 221 Orleans
    They were also South Africans soldiers (2 000 POWs)
    Many thanks and hope it will be useful.
     
  10. william vaucourt

    william vaucourt New Member

    desole pas post pas post
     
  11. william vaucourt

    william vaucourt New Member

    You can find a CICR review on the visits in Rennes dating december 1943 S1026881200015245a;pdf every engine will find it. The document, in French, reports on Zweiglager 133 zweiglager 221 for qarantine, Fronstalag 133 and lazaret 221 in Orleans. but I think you can also find the english version.
    Many thanks or the BRC report. Do you think the transfers will be operated to FS 315 Epinal (88) which will receive in january 1944 40 Indians from 221 or the transfer is about St Medard ?
     
  12. Judith Dudka

    Judith Dudka New Member

    This was my dad:
    332 SGT F/44705 Dudka, S. CA GSW right arm 21-Jun-44 12-Jul-44.
    Thank you for this information as it is just amazing to find that he was in this prison hospital. He told us stories of being in a prison with a lot of Americans but we never heard the name of it.
     
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  13. Eric Palmer

    Eric Palmer Member

    Dale,

    It's some time since we communicated on this thread. At the time I was trying to discover what had happened to my father Pte. Cyril Palmer, who was a PoW in Frontstalag 221 and you had some detail of him and his apparent anomalous evacuation by the 35th even though he was a Brit. Subsequently I now have some additional information about his later adventure. As I mentioned at the time, he disappeared from the records until he was discovered in a hospital in Liverpool. I tracked that down to what is now called Sefton General Hospital, but at the time was called Smithdown Road Hospital. The records of wounded military admissions and discharges still exist and I have acquired the relevant details of my father. He was admitted on 14th August 1944 and discharged on 11th Sep 44.

    His admission to Smithdown remained a mystery because he was listed as being transferred from Basingstoke Hospital. When I contacted that institution, I was told that all files from that period had been destroyed in the 1970s or 80s. However, I've very recently discovered that another institution just outside "1944 Basingstoke" which was previously used to treat WW1 wounded, was re-opened in 1921, and then, during WW2 was returned to military use for the treatment of wounded personnel. I'm now assuming that the Basingstoke reference in the Smithdown records referred to this location whose real title is Park Prewett Hospital. I have searched the Hampshire Records Office on-line and they do have some records for the place, so I have a query lodged with them to see if they hold the relevant records.

    From Smithdown he was discharged to the 122 MCD, which I now know was the 122nd Military Convalescent Depot, and a recent search has revealed that facility was located at an already existing convalescent hospital at Trentham Park, near Stoke-on-Trent. From there he was returned to 8th Btn Parachute Regiment. I have a search request regarding Trentham Park with the Staffordshire Records Office open at the moment.

    I realise others may already have this information, but I’m posting it just in case. I only have the relevant page of the Smithdown record, but there are a number of other arrivals listed as arriving from Basingstoke, so there may be opportunities for others searching similar histories.

    Eric. . .

    Park Prewett: The former Hampshire asylum where families are now living

    Smithdown/Sefton Hosp: Liverpool Records Office - 614SEF (not digitised)

    Trentham Park: Trentham Park's integral role in treating and rehabilitating WW2 troops
     

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