Looking for 8th Army HQ AFV Italy 1944 at KEW...no luck

Discussion in 'Higher Formations' started by LADC, Jul 9, 2013.

  1. LADC

    LADC Member

    Hello, like the subject line says.

    Apologies as I don't know the exact title or wording of such an AFV document or if one even exists for this formation. I know the docs I've obtained in the past had AFV, Q AFV or GHQ AFV in their titles, have searched through WO 170 series without luck. Does anyone know if an AFV doc exists for this formation in Italy?

  2. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran


    as far as I recall 8th army was incorporated with the 7th US army in Sicily to make up 15th Army Group- HQ - on landing in Italy with the US 5th PLUS 8th Army made up 13th Army group - OMG - we can't have that so it remained 15th

    Army group until the Americans suggested that it should be named Allied Forces Italy (AAI) - this didn't fit so it was back to 15th AG - still the same HQ at Caserta

    When in Tunisia - the 1st and 8th Armies joined to make 18th AG under Alex...over in Normandy the 2nd British Army joined with 1st Canadian Army ( which was only 2nd Corps at the time until Belgium in late feb '45 ) to make up

    21st AG
    All rocket science stuff

    Now the 15th AG was always known as AFHQ- Caserta
  3. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    There's a whole lot of files in WO 170 (Italian Campaign Diaries) under ALLIED FORCE HEADQUARTERS and HEADQUARTERS ALLIED ARMIES ITALY They range from WO 170/1 to WO 170/128. After that the files become 5th Army then Corps then Divisional diaries. It starts all over again at WO 170/4076 for 1945.

    I've copied one of these files before for someone else on the forum covering NA. What is the purpose of the unit/formation and who are they affiliated to? ie Are they REME or overall command of armoured units etc?

    Hope that helps to narrow down your search.

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