LE PARADIS MASSACRE: confirmation required

Discussion in '1940' started by Greg Bloomfield, Mar 24, 2006.

  1. Jonathan Ball

    Jonathan Ball It's a way of life.

    Has anyone got a definitive answer to why some of the men murdered, including Major Lisle Ryder have a date of death which is given as being between 27 May and 2 October 1940? I never got a reply from the CWGC when I enquired.
  2. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

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  3. Jonathan Ball

    Jonathan Ball It's a way of life.

    Thanks Di. I'm assuming then that 2 October is the date 'reported missing in action' was changed to 'reported killed in action'. Taking a look online I found a couple newspaper notices from December 1940 reporting the fact.

  4. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Hi Jonathan,
    Brian Sims/ADM199 explained it to me when I was starting off with my own research.
    It's date reliably last seen alive to the date a body was discovered (which was subsequently verified to be the missing individual in question).
    IIRC some ranges can stretch over months whereas others, like a relative of my husband span only two days (according to family story, her remains only required a shoe-box sized receptacle, so some detective work was required before identity verified).

    Casualty Branch were both very meticulous and cautious in the handling of information. They would only change casualty status if conditions met strict criteria. (Volunteer agencies who acted on behalf of relatives had been criticised eg for raising hopes based on flimsy / unsubstantiated 'evidence'; often frustrating Cas. Branch's efforts to supply relatives only with accurate information.)

    General procedure for dealing with Casualties in War, 1939

    Casualty: 'Cat C' ...
    Casualty: 'Cat C' ...
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  5. Hello
    I am researching my Great Uncle Joseph English 5770306 who served with the Royal Norfolk Regiment 2nd battalion and was killed between the 27th May and 1st June 1940. I don't think he was part of the Massacre at Le Paradis as his name isn't listed as one of the soldiers killed and he is buried a few miles down the road in Hinges Community cemetery. I have some very interesting photographs of him. i have attached a photo, he is the one seated and was wondering if there was any other information i can find on him anywhere.
    Many thanks in advance

    Scan 1.jpg
  6. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    You've already posted that here .
    5770606 PTE Joseph English Royal Norfolk Regiment 2nd Battalion 1940 | WW2Talk
    No need to duplicate posts as that leads to duplication of effort by the members & can cause confusion.
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  7. Jonathan Ball

    Jonathan Ball It's a way of life.

    Hello Diane

    I missed your reply. Thanks very much for the information and links. Most informative.
  8. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    I reckon you could get some if not all of those dates amended.

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