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Kings Regulations 1940

Discussion in 'Service Records' started by skimmod, Feb 19, 2012.

  1. SkrigeToon

    SkrigeToon New Member

    Cheers so more chance it being XVI
     
  2. Terry Jones

    Terry Jones Member

    Can somebody please tell me this code off discharge

    Discharge date 1948

    Para 519 KR (x) 1940

    Many thanks
     
  3. AB64

    AB64 Senior Member

  4. Terry Jones

    Terry Jones Member

    Thank you
     
  5. Rand

    Rand Junior Member

    Hello, Thanks in advance for any help.

    Looking for King's Regulation Para 383 (xviii) (a)

    Cheers
     
  6. AB64

    AB64 Senior Member

  7. Rand

    Rand Junior Member

    Thanks for your prompt response!

    Have you ever seen this cause of discharge before? We think he was serving pre-war and was sent to borstal after being convicted in a civilian court for theft. He was then discharged in wartime. Would that make sense?

    Thank you very much.
     
  8. R.E.S.Bradley

    R.E.S.Bradley New Member

    Does anyone know what the content of Kings Regulations Para 390 (xii)(a) is? It is the reason for my birth fathers discharge in 1947.
     
  9. AB64

    AB64 Senior Member

    Maybe not the answer you were hoping for - it does sound like there may be an "interesting" story behind it though

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  10. R.E.S.Bradley

    R.E.S.Bradley New Member

    that sounds about right, he did have 'deserted' and reinlisted about 10 times from 1939-1947 and had been done in 1940 for 'misconduct'. Is there anyway of finding out what it was for, and if he ended up locked away for any length of time?
     
  11. SmallTownGirl

    SmallTownGirl New Member

    HI. Newbie here!

    Can anyone tell me what Para 383 (xvi) (b) of the 1940 King's Regulations says, please?

    Thank you
    STG
     
  12. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member

    Hi,

    Welcome to the forum.

    Sadly Alistair (AB64) won’t be able to assist as he passed away suddenly a couple of months ago.

    Steve
     
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  13. SmallTownGirl

    SmallTownGirl New Member

    Oh dear. Poor Alistair. I'm so sorry.

    I'm a tad confused. Well, more than a tad, actually. According to the info I have, the chap I'm looking at was discharged under 383 (xvi) (b) in the 1940 Regs, but I read here that para 383 from the 1935 Regs became para 390 in the 1940 version. So, perhaps my source has just quoted the wrong year and I really need to know that para 383 (xv9) (b) of the 1935 version said? Or do I?

    H-E-L-P ! (please)

    STG
     
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  14. papiermache

    papiermache Well-Known Member

    This is the 1935 version of para. 383 (xvi) (b)

    "Physically unfit for any form of army service"

    And the related amendment at next post.
     

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  15. papiermache

    papiermache Well-Known Member

    Amendment slip: August 1938: insert at line 9 ( see red ^ in photo above ):

    "unless recommended for and desirous of absorption in, or transfer to, a lower class ( see para 314 (xiii)."

    The amendment of para 314 reads:

    " Class of Transfer (1) : (xiii) For service in a lower class

    Competent Officer to Transfer (2) : O.C.

    Special Instructions (3): Applies only to a soldier recommended by a medical board on A.F. B 179 for transfer to a class lower than that in which he is serving, and who cannot be absorbed in a lower class in the corps in which he is serving. "

    The 1940 edition is not immediately available to me.
     

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  16. SmallTownGirl

    SmallTownGirl New Member

    Many thanks papiermache for your help with this.

    STG
     
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  17. Stevem2567

    Stevem2567 Active Member

    Can anyone please help me understand the discharge codes on this record please? He seems to have been discharged in 1940 and transferred to Section B reserve but he died in India in 1943. His CWGC record states that he was 6 North Staffs Regiment but it is noted in his CWGC record that he was attached to Royal Indian ASC.
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  18. papiermache

    papiermache Well-Known Member

    At post 5 above image numbers "IMGP1866" and "IMGP1868" are photos of the pages of the King's Regulations 1940 showing sub-paragraph 390(xvii) and 390(xviii).
     
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  19. Stevem2567

    Stevem2567 Active Member

    Thank you. I am new here so please forgive me for not finding it myself. On a slightly different topic any idea how a guy discharged to B Reserve ended up in India with the RIASC? Would he have been recalled?
     
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  20. papiermache

    papiermache Well-Known Member

    Welcome to the forum. My version of King's Regulations is the 1935 edition "Amended to Number 45 Date 30/8/39". In my edition paragraph 383 is 1940 edition paragraph 390 but both refer to Appendix XXVII. There was no time to rewrite the whole of King's Regulations. Please see attached photos ( apologies for shadow ). As for interpretation, others on here may be able to help. There may well be a later edition of Appendix XXVII.
     

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