Italy Trip May 2008

Discussion in 'WW2 Battlefields Today' started by Paul Reed, May 26, 2008.

  1. woodenshoe

    woodenshoe Junior Member

    Great thread! Thanks so much for sharing! I love these threads where you take me to the places you've been!
    Thanks again!!
     
  2. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    We'd still like to know what this was.

    http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/attachments/ww2-battlefields-today/8642d1212837506-italy-trip-may-2008-cavendish-rd-ammo-sm-jpg
    The percussion cap was rounded, why would that be?
     
  3. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Paul sent me a CD of his photos, here are the mortarbomb-case endplates, just like those in the IWM photo below it.

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    Description: Second Phase 15 February - 10 May 1944: Men of the 6th Battalion Royal West Kent Regiment man a 3 inch mortar on Monastery Hill.
     
  4. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    We also have another photo of that odd round.
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  5. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

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  6. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    Nice one, Owen!
     
  7. jwp59

    jwp59 Member

    great thread !, fantastic to see the areas my father served in , thank you,
    regards,
    John.
     
  8. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

  9. Tommygunn

    Tommygunn Member

    Excellent post, thanks.
    Now, concerning that .303 cartridge case then I have two explanations.
    One, the round was in a fire, it exploded shredding the neck of the cartridge and ballooning out the primer.
    Secondly, it may be a case of a 'hangfire' where the cartridge was fired in the usual manner but failed to go off. The shooter ejected the round, thinking he had a misfire, only to have the powder ignite a few seconds later outside the weapon, causing the cartridge to blow up and the primer to balloon.
     
  10. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Hi Tommy,

    I wonder if the round had cooked off due to there appearing to be no firing pin strike on the percussion cap?

    Justa thought

    Cheers
    Andy
     
  11. Tommygunn

    Tommygunn Member

    Hi Drew,
    Good point. Could only have happened in a Vickers, though, as the Bren is an open bolt weapon and it is unlikely to have happened in an Enfield.

    Owen,
    Was the casing in an area likely to have been used as a Vickers position?
    Also give it a clean, if you actually have it, and then a Brasso and see if the metal is discoloured which might indicate its exposure to fire.
     
  12. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    No Tom, we left it in situ.
    It was found on the Cavendish Road in a place unlikely to be a fire position IIRC.
     
  13. Tommygunn

    Tommygunn Member

    Give me the GPS coordinates or paces from the Sherman and I'll pop down tomorrow:p
     
  14. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Give me the GPS coordinates or paces from the Sherman and I'll pop down tomorrow:p


    Hahaha Nice one :lol:

    ps I was thinking from a fire rather than a MG :unsure:

    Cheers
    Andy
     
  15. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Just thought I'd bump this up for the newer members who may not have seen it.
    It was a year today we went, I'm feeling kind of sad.
    Such a great trip.
     
  16. James S

    James S Very Senior Member

    Thanks Owen and Paul , a number of folks I presently work with are in this age group - much enjoyed seeing the photos and comments.
    Thank you.
     
  17. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    Yep, hardly seems possible it was a year ago. Great trip - and one I will remember for many years to come.
     
  18. enjoy your trip
     
  19. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    enjoy your trip

    At least read the posts if you are going to make a comment. We went... a year ago!!! ;)
     

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