Hitler did once live in Liverpool

Whilst researching another thread I started about Leonard Rossiter's father, John, who died in the May Blitz of Liverpool in 1941, I found the following information. I couldn't find any similar thread on a search of the forum, but found this interesting/amusing enough to post.

Adolf Hitler's half brother, Alois, had once lived in Liverpool; link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool_Blitz

"After the raids in May 1941, the German air assault diminished... The last German air raid on Liverpool took place on 10 January 1942, destroying several houses on Upper Stanhope Street. By a quirk of fate one of the houses destroyed was number 102, which had been the home of Alois Hitler, Jr., half brother of Adolf Hitler and the birthplace of Hitler's nephew, William Patrick Hitler. The house was never rebuilt and the whole site was eventually cleared of housing and grassed over."

Link to the Leonard Rossiter thread here: http://ww2talk.com/forums/topic/60046-leonard-reggie-perrin-rossiter/

 

Some of the many articles on the issue

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/adolf-hitler-liverpool-links-discussed-3361247


http://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,5753,-1915,00.html


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2066155/Hitler-spent-months-living-Liverpool-flat-later-destroyed-Luftwaffe.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/legacies/myths_legends/england/liverpool/user_1_article_1.shtml

http://jmu-journalism.org.uk/did-hitler-really-visit-liverpool/

http://www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/Census-shows-Hitlers-half-brother-married-to-an-Irishwoman-lived-in-Liverpool.html


His nephew fought against him in the US Navy after he emigrated there


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2182382/Hitlers-nephew-writes-letter-Roosevelt-begging-fight-Nazis-WWII.html

Kyle

 

Thanks for sharing. Interesting.

 

The Hitler family's real and supposed links with the Northwest have been mentioned on the forum before. See:
http://ww2talk.com/forums/topic/13739-did-hitler-save-blackpool/?hl=rochdale#entry153898
The legend of Adolf's fondness for Rochdale Town Hall has proved particularly tenacious and has been mentioned to me in conversation by various Rochdalians over the years. Like many urban legends it seems impossible to establish where it came from or conclusively kill it off (cf the stories of Henry Tandey VC saving Hitler's life, Churchill sacrificing Coventry to preserve the Enigma secret, crated Spitfires in Burma, gold trains in Poland etc etc)

 

Hitler's born in the UK before 1915

Abraham Hitler
1901 Apr-May-Jun Prestwich Lancashire

Joe Hitler
1901 Apr-May-Jun Prestwich Lancashire

William P Hitler
1911 Apr-May-Jun Toxteth Park Lancashire


Alois Hitler marriage cert details:

Name: Alois Hitler
Registration Year: 1910
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: St Marylebone
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 1115

There is also a family tree for Adolf

Adolf Hitler
Birth: 20 April 1889 (20 Apr 1889) - Austria
Death: 30 April 1945 (30 Apr 1945) - Mitte, Berlin, Germany
Father: Alois Hitler

I am quite surprised at the number of Hitler families that lived in the UK, some going back into the 1800's

TD

 

I didn't consider the cyber 'dickheads', VP. Just thought it was an interesting/amusing thread to start the New Year with. If it starts going the wrong way, please just ask Owen to bin the thread...

Kyle - I only ever recall some comedian referring to Hitler living in Liverpool, as part of his act. I never thought there was any truth in it; well, a Hitler family member living there to be precise...

Mark - I did find the thread you provided the link for, but thought it was all about Blackpool and Rochdale and didn't hone in on the brief mention you made to this story; apologies.

KJ Jr - Thanks!

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alois_Hitler#Change_of_surname



Heil Schicklgruber anyone?

& I think (from memory) that this is discussed nicely in here:
http://secondworldwarpodcast.org/2015/04/01/world-war-2-podcast-episode-4/

Podcast:
http://hwcdn.libsyn.com/p/3/d/c/3dc23b8e3056cc81/WW2_4.mp3?c_id=8683449&expiration=1451762536&hwt=4bbb78ccd24e1f9e2356e0ace5f9ae90

Don't think it mentions Liverpool though ^_^

 

Contrary to reports that he was alive after the war in South America, I have heard that AH actually lived in Minehead after 1945 under the name of Gitler.

 

I heard New York:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mf9jJx0NSjw

 

Double Post Deleted.

 

Did he keep in touch with Martin Bormann, who settled in the Home Counties after being rescued from Berlin by Ian Fleming? (At least according to that loopy book 'Operation JB'.)

 

I'd always assumed Hitler had a number of "doubles" on the go - and any "so called" pictures of him after the war were most likely them (or Chaplin I suppose )

Bit like Saddam perhaps. A job at the time someone "had to do" but one with plenty of pitfalls both before and after I guess.

Always wonder why there wasn't more made of the conspiracy that Hitler was actually killed in the Wolf's Lair Valkyrie plot and thereafter his cronies shifted up no. 1 double to his post no less. All his errors there after hence were "not his own". Pulp fiction and dross but Da Vichi code et. al and the Pyramids/Chariots of the Gods covers copy and does the tour so someone buys this guff... :P

 

I did wonder where all those car wheels found in the bunker came from. Brian

 

There was always a story - and still is - about Hitler's ice skates being on show in a glass case in the old Silver Blades - the old Liverpool Palace Ice rink built in 1931 on Prescot Road - about 2.5 miles away from Alois's flat in Upper Stanhope Street but a handy tram ride or two and a popular destination. No -one can ever prove it of course....I do love a good urban myth.

 

If he was like other such leaders then he might well have had a couple of doubles. However, nobody who was not the greatest actor in history could have done that utterly typical screaming fit he had when the Italians arrived immediately after the assassination attempt.

 

There was a trashy thriller written in the late 70s or 80s based on the idea that Hitler was assassinated and replaced by a double. In this version of history the real Hitler was a military genius. Only Bormann knew about the switch so the rest of the leadership obeyed the double, who was not a military genius.

In this tale, it was the 1943 attempt by Tresckow to put a bomb on Hitler's plane, disguised as a bottle of brandy, rather than the July 1944 one that succeeded.

It was important to the plot that Hitler was a military genius, which would have been impossible to sustain if he was still alive in July 1944. Stalingrad was explained away by Hitler for once listening to bad advice from his generals rather than following his instincts.

The author might have been Colin Forbes: certainly somebody of his ilk.

 

Reminds me of a John Cleese take on Hitler staying in a seaside B & B☺☺

 

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