Hi new member here need help My father passed away ten years ago. He had brother killed in ww2 All we new was that he was killed on prisoner of war ship. I found letter to my father from his brother and I am hoping to find out what happened to him. letter dated tuesday jan 13th. I checked old calendars I think the only time jan 13 fell on tuesday between 1939 and 1945 was in 1942 details Thomas Henry Bartlett No 867420 240 bty 77 W.H.AA.RA cwgc shows date death 24th june44 singapore cemetary site shows date death 20th June44 cofepow shows captured8th march42 It appears he may have been part of java gunners? I haven't been able to find him on prisoner of war lists online or hellship honour rolls.The only thing I found which probably coincidence is two sinking dates for tamahoko maru of 20june44 and 24june 44 the same two dates of death for tom Would love know where and what happened to him between 42 and 44 also what ship he was on. I hope this makes sense and someone can help, thanks
Hi Pamela FOund this - Orders of Battle - 77 Heavy Anti-Aircraft Regiment RA [British Commonwealth] Heavy Anti-Aircraft Regiment RA does not say much also this on this forum - http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/research-material/25024-history-royal-artillery-regt-far-east-theatre-1941-46-farndale.html scroll down a bit to find some mention and you probably have this - COFEPOW - South East Asia Under Japanese Occupation - Java Gunners someone more knowledgable will help so welcome and regards Robert
Hi Pamela You might be interested in this also - The War Graves Photographic Project and 77haa and RA 1939-45 77 HAA Rgt These records are at AWM - Australian War Memorial - Information sheets but you have to go there - they are not online - or amybe you can look the record up and ask for a quote? regards Robert
Hello Pamela, Welcome to the forum. Not sure if this helps but the following POW ship was lost on 24 June 1944..... TAMAHOKO MARU Part of a convoy sailing towards Japan with 772 Australian, British and American prisoners of war on board. With the lights of Japan in sight, one of the ships in the convoy, exploded after being torpedoed by the US submarine USS Tang. Nearby, the Tamahoko Maru was almost blown apart and water poured in through a gaping hole in her side. On top of the main hatch cover 80 men were sleeping. Not one of them survived. As the Tamahoko (6,780 tons) settled in the water, hundreds of prisoners jumped into the sea and soon a Japanese whale-chaser appeared and started picking up survivors. The final count was that 560 POWs had died. Of the 267 Australians on board only 72 survived. Fifteen US soldiers and sailors were killed as well as thirteen merchant seamen rescued from the sunk freighter American Leader. Next day, 212 survivors of the Tamahoko Maru were brought into the harbour at Nagasaki to spend the rest of the war in the POW camp, Fukuoka 13.
thanks everyone for your welcomes, also information and links. I will check them all out. I have only seen the cofepow site about Java, very interesting, this fits in with his capture date of 8th march 42. I would like to find out what happened to him after capture between march 42 and his date of death in 44 and what ship he was on. The Tamahoko Maru fits in with his date of death but I can't find a list of who died on this one.
Pamela, 77 HAA Rgt were in convoy WS14 heading for the middle east when, at the end of December 1941, they were diverted to Singapore. The convoy had just arrived when they were ordered to re-deploy to Batavia leaving on the 30th January 1942. They arrived at Batavia on the 4th February and were attacked by enemy aircraft as they were unloading. Once they had unloaded they were deployed around the harbour. 77th were then deployed on the 7th Feb to the naval base at Sourabaya less 239 Bty at Batavia. On the 1st March HQ 77 HAA with 240 & 241 Btys were moved from Sourabaya, which was now under heavy attack, to Tjilatjap, losing a Troop as they did so. Sorry that's all I have. They were presumably captured when the garrison surrendered.
Hi Robert, the Aust war memorial information sheets look interesting, do you know if the lists show british casualties as well as Australian. Tom was welsh. I know there is also information at Kew in the uk but will have to win the lotto to go there to have a look, I can't get them online. Also, does anyone know if it's worthwhile checking the international red cross for information on camps he might have been in. I have a cousin in the uk who is trying to get Toms official date of birth and as I am one of the next of kins I think they will check for me. thanks Pam
Hi Pamela & welcome. It would appear that 240 Battery had 125 men who died during the period of captivity and some even afterwards as a result of their time in captivity. The Regiment as a whole lost nearly half of it's men whilst in captivity. You mention there is information at Kew. Can you tell me what it is as I may be able to do a look up for you in the not too distant future. Regards - Rob
CWGC Kranji - Singapore Memorial: pics of c25,000 names now available. Whilst at CWGC Kranji in Singapore, I managed to photograph all the names - c25,000 - on the Singapore Memorial* (*sometimes known as the Kranji Memorial). These are now available - FREE - to family/friends/researchers etc. note: As there are 13 very large pillars supporting 472 columns which, in turn, are displaying c25,000 names,you MUST provide me with the correct column number, and you can do this by visiting the CWGC website for those particular details. For multiple requests, please contact me first to discuss your requirements. My contact details; nt872b(at)hotmail.com Patience please....and allow c4 weeks before hearing from me....Thank you. Tony If you need a photographic image of his name on the Singapore Memorial, contact Tony, quoting the following details and tell him that you are related. He will be very happy to help. Name: BARTLETT, THOMAS HENRY Rank: Gunner Regiment/Service: Royal Artillery Unit Text: 240 Bty., 77 H.A.A. Regt. Age: 25 Date of Death: 24/06/1944 Service No: 867420 Additional information: Son of Frederick James Bartlett and Ellen Bartlett, of Cathays, Glamorgan. Grave/Memorial Reference: Column 13. Memorial: SINGAPORE MEMORIAL Also, some info to help finding the exact date of birth, assuming this is the correct man:- Name: Thomas H Bartlett Mother's Maiden Surname: Burnett Date of Registration: Oct Nov Dec 1919 Registration district: Cardiff Registration county: Wales Volume Number: 11a Page Number: 826
ramacal: How did you get the CWGC entry with a date of 24th June? The actual CWGC date I have is 20th, not 24th! These are Geoff's listing for deaths on 20/05/1944 on Singapore Memorial, so likely to be the 93 UK casualties from the convoy. 001 ALLSOPP WH 1700401 89 BTY, 35 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 002 AVONS JM 2363023 - 20/06/1944 ROYAL CORPS OF SIGNALS 003 BAKER R 1734152 48 BTY, 21 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 004 BALDWIN HC 1696922 95 BTY, 48 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 005 BARKER GF 1817009 12 BTY, 6 HAA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 006 BARTLETT TH 867420 240 BTY, 77 HAA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 007 BELLETT GS 13029025 2ND BN 20/06/1944 ARGYLL AND SUTHERLAND HIGHLANDERS 008 BRAIN SH 1483233 89 BTY, 35 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 009 BRERETON JA 2367472 28 WING SEC 20/06/1944 ROYAL CORPS OF SIGNALS 010 BROOKS JH 1563461 49 BTY, 48 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 011 BROWN AG S/5441629 ATTD 77 HAA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARMY SERVICE CORPS 012 BROWN CF 1563417 78 BTY, 35 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 013 BUDD TA 1485971 48 BTY, 21 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 014 BURDEN JJ 1487049 48 BTY, 21 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 015 BURGESS EG 1777621 239 BTY, 77 HAA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 016 CHAPMAN EHC 1737584 241 BTY, 77 HAA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 017 CLARKE DS 861493 3RD KING'S OWN HUSSARS 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARMOURED CORPS 018 CLOGG JH 1700360 89 BTY, 35 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 019 COLEY CW 1646085 240 BTY, 77 HAA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 020 COLLIER EH 1717712 49 BTY, 48 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 021 COOPER TJ 1760042 144 BTY, 35 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 022 COSGROVE WJ 10630241 ATTD 20/06/1944 ARMY CATERING CORPS 023 CROZIER JE 1527498 69 BTY, 21 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 024 CUNNINGHAM H 4626516 20 BASE ORDNANCE DEPOT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARMY ORDNANCE CORPS 025 DEE H 1523299 48 BTY, 48 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 026 DERRICK VN 319806 3RD KING'S OWN HUSSARS 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARMOURED CORPS 027 DUFFIELD G 1623463 49 BTY, 48 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 028 DUNNINGTON WCH 1800378 49 BTY, 48 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 029 ELLIOTT JC S/243241 208 PETROL DEPOT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARMY SERVICE CORPS 030 ELLIOTT TW 1821316 48 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 031 FARRANT EF 1491772 241 BTY, 77 HAA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 032 FENN DH 7686994 'K' PROVOST COY 20/06/1944 CORPS OF MILITARY POLICE 033 FOSTER AF 7593994 77 HAA REGT WORKSHOP SEC 20/06/1944 ROYAL ELECTRICAL AND MECHANICAL ENGINEERS 034 FROGGATT E 7597057 21 LT AA REGT WORKSHOPS 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARMY ORDNANCE CORPS 035 FULLER FJ 1653632 242 BTY, 48 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 036 GAMSBY JW 1649397 95 BTY, 48 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 037 GARMAN LW 2336267 28 WING SEC 20/06/1944 ROYAL CORPS OF SIGNALS 038 GARRETT GT 1807025 79 BTY, 21 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 039 GLUE JW 1833216 21 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 040 GORONWY JW 183683 174 H FIELD AMB 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARMY MEDICAL CORPS 041 GRAY J 13051122 175 COY 20/06/1944 PIONEER CORPS 042 HEATHCOTE CAC 6214563 49 BTY, 48 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 043 HICKSON RF 2350894 28 WING SEC 20/06/1944 ROYAL CORPS OF SIGNALS 044 HOTSTON F 1775968 49 BTY, 48 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 045 HUGHES GC 2334960 28 WING SEC 20/06/1944 ROYAL CORPS OF SIGNALS 046 HUMPHREY HA 1808664 241 BTY, 77 HAA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 047 IRVING R 868788 HQ 6 HAA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 048 IVES G T/270164 ATTD 48 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARMY SERVICE CORPS 049 JOHNSON S 11053323 242 BTY, 48 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 050 JONES E 1690885 HQ 48 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 051 KNIGHT EJ S/54348 - 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARMY SERVICE CORPS 052 LANGLEY J T/3782097 ATTD 21 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARMY SERVICE CORPS 053 LETHAM JD 1826529 21 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 054 LONG EA 1645948 240 BTY, 77 HAA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 055 MANSELL PSJ 1548785 21 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 056 MANSFIELD C 3914100 239 BTY, 77 HAA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 057 MCCANN MBD 1801634 242 BTY, 48 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 058 MINTON R 1530175 15 BTY, 6 HAA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 059 MOORE AJW 1556169 21 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 060 MOUG SS 1784627 95 BTY, 48 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 061 O'SHAUGHNESSY F 1643466 12 BTY, 6 HAA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 062 POVEY EA 1587885 241 BTY, 77 HAA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 063 RAPER ESW 2359942 77 HAA REGT, RA SIG SEC 20/06/1944 ROYAL CORPS OF SIGNALS 064 REDHEAD JE 1801692 95 BTY, 48 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 065 RICHENS FR 1483286 89 BTY, 35 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 066 RIDDELL J T/3189555 ATTD 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARMY SERVICE CORPS 067 ROGERS J 1796224 49 BTY, 48 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 068 SALTER JH 5622407 49 BTY, 48 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 069 SHANKS J 1640874 241 BTY, 77 HAA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 070 SHEALS P 1784606 95 BTY, 48 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 071 SHIMMIN JJ 1534698 21 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 072 SIBLEY WA 805245 15 BTY, 16 HAA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 073 SKELT REW 1523356 242 BTY, 48 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 074 SLACK JB 1700062 78 BTY, 35 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 075 SMITH EC 1563181 48 BTY, 21 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 076 SOMMERVILLE JW 1828427 48 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 077 SWAIN AE 1700088 89 BTY, 35 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 078 TAPLIN GE 1873809 ATTD 48 LT AA WORKSHOP SEC, 20/06/1944 ROYAL ELECTRICAL AND MECHANICAL ENGINEERS 079 TARRANT DJ 1627200 240 BTY, 77 HAA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 080 TAYLOR J 1700090 89 BTY, 35 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 081 TIZZARD S 1700038 35 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 082 TUNKLE B 1552262 48 BTY, 21 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 083 TURNER J 1807899 242 BTY, 48 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 084 WALLER GT 6021056 6TH BN 20/06/1944 ROYAL NORFOLK REGIMENT 085 WARD R 1784372 95 BTY, 48 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 086 WATKINS EB 1550416 78 BTY, 35 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 087 WEBSTER WH 13056966 175 COY 20/06/1944 PIONEER CORPS 088 WEIR W 1730348 240 BTY, 77 HAA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 089 WELLS GJ 1556203 2/LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 090 WILKINS RE 1633945 78 BTY, 3/LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 091 WRIGHT WR 1760227 242 BTY, 48 LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 092 WRIGHT J 1735786 2/LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY 093 WRIGHT AC 1715475 89 BTY, 3/LT AA REGT 20/06/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY There are also a number of deaths in the next few days from these units.... I couldn't find any Australians using same parameters. Are they recorded on a different Memorial?
Hi Kevin and Ramacal. Thanks for helping. I also got the date of death from the cwgc site as 24th june 44 but google searching singapore cemetary they have 20th june 44. I also got two sinking dates for the tamahoko maru of the same dates, don't know if this is just a coincidence.Ramacal the list shows all with the same date of death, does this mean they were all on the same ship and can I find out somewhere?
