Help deciphering Military Abbreviations on service records

I was hoping that somebody may be able to help decipher a couple of abbreviations on my father's service records that we have just received please.
I have seen a couple of threads on the abbreviation WTPP being either War Time Proficiency Pay, With Travel Permit Provided or Welfare Time Private and Personal. My father's records state that on 9.5.42 he ceased to be attached to No. 2 ITC Norwich , The next entry is 12.9.42 where the WTPP is recorded and in the Unit section its states what I believe to be YORNR? . We have googled with no luck and there is nothing showing on this site as far as we can see. any help would be very much appreciated. I have attached a copy of the records.

 

Could it perhaps be 70 RNR?

70 Royal Norfolk Regiment? Those high numbers often refer to training battalions.

 

Agree with Charley, 70RNR is 70th Bn Royal Norfolk Regiment as per the very first entry when he enlisted.

 

Thank you its so obvious when it is pointed out !!
Any thoughts on WTPP definitions at all? I also have a reference on his records of being deprived 1 days pay on 7.7.44 when he was in 33 Corps Sigs BORS , not sure on what the BORS stands for? The offence is a Sec 11 AA which I believe is not carrying out an order from a superior officer, would there be any records held on what offence he committed. Great to have your help on this many thanks.

 

I can't find BORS on that sheet!

(eyes or brain could be at fault)

 

No , I had not uploaded it , now attached. Thanks Nigel

 

This one has had me thinking.

You probably knows that BORS (BORs) is usually British Other Ranks (in non-British or mixed units and formations, but that doesn't fit here.

My other line of thought is that the senior Royal Signals officer in a Corps is a Brigadier. Could--I only throw this as a straw in the wind-- it be 33 Corps Brigadier of Royal Signals? It might sound odd to use a rank as a unit title, but it is done elsewhere: CRE & CRA, for the staff of the top-ranking Engineer or Gunner at divisional level.

In this case:
Brigadier C N Stafford XXXIII Corps Signals

 

Not sure about this, but i think the acronym of WTPP means With Travel Pay Permit? I was sure that I had written the meaning of that down whilst looking into my Grandfather's Service Records. Go to the top of this page & click on Resources & look at the top of the page. You will see Updated Resource Abbreviations & Military List. Not looked myself!

Regards,
Stu.

 

That may well work as the reference is against his deduction of 1 days pay for refusing to obey or to carry out an order from a senior officer- many thanks , much appreciated. I had so many years to ask him these questions but he was so reluctant to talk about it.

 

Thanks Stu, I will have a look. It's also been suggested War Time Proficiency Pay and Welfare Time Private and Personal. As its between leaving the Royal Norfolk Regiment and then being transferred to The Signals Corps maybe it was travel back to see his paraents and soon to be wife before he started his signals training. We will never know but it works for me. Shame he is not around to ask , not that he liked to talk about his time during the war. Appreciate your help. KR Nigel

 

KR Nigel, Welfare Time Private & Personal it is not & neither is the other (I will put my wage on that!) The only other thing that i can say is.. With Travel Pay Permitted. Some wise chap or lady will clarify it one way or the other.

Regards,
Stu.

 

many thanks Stu, appreciate your help on this KR Nigel

 

Nigel, did you look at the Resource section that I advised? I have seen that two forum members are doing the same.. Not had the chance to download them! What did you come across? I did have a look at a old PDF doc last night & could not come across the meaning of WTPP. I must get my specs on.

Regards,
Stu.

 

Hi Stu

I am planning to , work has got in the way though! There is another one that is puzzling me, ROHAZ. I remember seeing a post that it was something to do with going on leave but I can find it know. Will let you know how I get on.

 

That's a new one on me!

As ever, best chance of decoding if seen in context.

 

If ROHAZ is to do with being drafted overseas or after transferring Army units, it is possibly a draft recognition code for those travelling and is not an acronym as such. My grandad's code for India was RBAHA and the 13th King's code when voyaging to India in 1941 was RZGHA. Personnel would chalk these leters on their backage and kit so it went on the correct ship etc.

Discussed on the forum here:
Draft recognition codes.

 

Hi, file attached. As bamboo43 says about Draft recognition codes this would make sense as the next entry on the record is embarkation to India , his other records confirm this as Bombay bot no draft code for his returm to the UK in August 46. I know he made this on a ship as he mentioned that there were British POWs on the same voyage and they had to be segregated from other soldiers due to the tharet of deseasae and also that some the POWs would steal anything they could get hold of.

 

Many thanks again, it would work as this as the next entry is his embarkation to Bombay. Thanks for the thread details, I would love to know where he sailed from and returned from and to in the UK. I know he was then posted to a R Signals depot as a CQMS in Reading where he served until March 1947 and we also have his Notification of Impending Release. Appreciate your help once again.

 

I'd go with Bamboo's assumption for R.O.H.A.Z.

I think that page makes my own guess about BORS as being Brigade/Briadier Signals Office very likely.

 

Nigel,
I have got around to having a look at the resource section that i advised & the answer to WTPP is; With Travel Permit Provided. I've only downloaded one off them. The one by dbf.. Richard Lewis has done another one.

Regards,
Stu.