Grenadier Guards, Other Ranks: unofficial Nominal Roll by Army Number order

Pay offices will only act on information posted on Part 2/3 orders - the Substansive publication date of RSM Kay's promotion is listed as an occurrence, he will have been paid as WO1 from that occurrence. It may all seem rather mundane but part 2 orders went to all departments, the regimental tailor shop would see a notification of promotion his clothing would have the knew insignia sewn on. Married quarter entitlement and a host of other changes may occur. RSM is at the top of the celestial ladder he has arrived!

 

Thanks again Wills (and not forgetting Diane) The white 'feathers I described could well be a leather knot. Just assumed it was plumage of some type! Probably behind the knot in the sash in the published picture, but visible on the latter.

 

I suppose my comment about the RSM reaching the top of the celestial ladder is Per Ardua Ad Astra!

Late father a regular airman 1935/49 Fitter/Armourer (Guns and Bombs)-as discharge book. When I finished my aircraft engineers apprenticeship and joined the Guards, he shook his head and said all that and you go Pongo on me!

 

Hi

A few more Grenadiers for you.

5880532 Thomas William Simpson 3rd Bn GG pre war(Origionally Northamptoshire Regt).
22213112 Thomas Lewis Simpson 3rd Bn GG post war 40/50s.
22955424 John E Simpson 1st Bn GG Kings Coy Post war 50s.
2611460 Jack Bodfish Pre war and called back up for the war.
2616290 Dennis William George Bodfish. Joined 1939 Duration of war.

They are all related (distant) to 2624294 Cecil George Bodfish who you already have.

I am currently abroad so do not have all their information with me at the moment.

Rgds Mick S


Mick S, 22955424 Simpson.J you have listed as King Company,John was in the same squad as me at the Depot Sept 54,we both joined Queens Company,then at Gort Barracks BAOR March/April 55,John was company storeman stood about 6 foot 7,my number was 22955444

 

Looking again at the photographs of RSM Kay. I mentioned the warrant officers sword and the picture above shows him as a Drill Sergeant WO2 wearing a sword. What I forgot to mention was that officers and WO1 wear the sword with the hand guard facing forward - ready to draw. Drill Sergeants and other WO 2 appointments where a sword is worn, (not CSMs) wear the sword reversed hand guard facing rear- making it impossible to draw - they never do draw swords anyway!

 

22955424 Simpson J,6th from the left behind the instructors,im 7th

 

Tailored Battle Dress - the smartest uniform ever! Skin abrasion for the use of!

 

Hello

I found this site looking for information about 6 Battalion Grenadier Guards and their exploits in March 1943. (It's a goldmine !)

My father was 4975581 Robert HUDSON CSM, in January 1938 he transferred in from the Sherwood Forresters, was a PT instructor in the Training Battalion until he volunteered to join the 6th Battalion. He was wounded 24 March 1943 (mentioned in Bn War Diary) and evacuated to No3 Casualty Clearing Station M.E.F. In March 1944 he transferred to the Corps of Military Police S.I.B. in Egypt until 1946.

 

Hello Diane
Thank you for adding him, and for the MO info.

Only once did he mention his time in the desert, "after his 'lot' had been blown up this officer drove up and said 'who's left in charge' 'I am' 'OK, I'm promoting you. Take charge.' Then he drove off and straight away hit a mine. That was the end of that."

I've up loaded some pictures from his time in the Grenadiers, others I have are from the RMP and general desert army pics which I can post if you wish ...

My Uncle (Dad's twin brother) Bernard HUDSON also entered the Grenadiers at the same time and now lives in Germany.

His number is 4975580, he too joined from the Sherwood Forresters and they joined the Guards on the same day, he was in the 2nd Bn at Wellington Barracks, then in the 4th Armoured Battalion before transferring to the RMP

 

OK to add my Uncle too.
Sadly I know nothing of my Dad's unit, nor are there names with any of the group photos.
I'll have a look at the options for adding more info & the other pictures

 

2nd Battalion Grenadier Guards on the King's Birthday parade 1939

 

(Block allocation 2604001 to 2646000)

*** 26151813 Lance-Corporal BROWNING Cyril Charles 6th Battalion Grenadier Guards ***
CWGC :: Casualty Details
This no. in CWGC records is incorrect, and contains an extra digit. Correct number is as yet unknown.


Name:Cyril Browning
Given Initials:C C
Rank:Lance Corporal
Death Date:10 Sep 1943
Number:2615183
Birth Place:Kent
Residence:Kent
Regiment at Enlistment:Grenadier Guards
Branch at Enlistment:Foot Guards
Theatre of War:Italy
Regiment at Death:Grenadier Guards
Branch at Death:Foot Guards

Above taken from the roll of honour.

Graham

 

****?????*****
6539339 Sergeant NOLAN F. M.
6607559 Lance-Corporal DEFERM Samuel 2nd Battalion Grenadier Guards
6607946 TURNER GWH 5th Battalion Grenadier Guards


Renumbering of the army in 1920 suggests:

6515001 6825000 London Regiment

 

???3069 Lance-Corporal WENTWORTH W. R. 3rd Battalion Grenadier Guards 2613069 William R Wentworth
???6375 Guardsman WATERHOUSE J. 2nd Battalion Grenadier Guards 5 Company
???9840 Lance-Corporal WOODLEY S. S. 3rd Battalion Grenadier Guards 5499840 Stanley S Woodley
?2614255 (See J. Thompson) Guardsman THOMSON W. 2nd Battalion Grenadier Guards 5 Company
?2614255 (See W. Thomson) Guardsman THOMPSON J. 2nd Battalion Grenadier Guards 5 Company
?2615855 (See D. Seane) Guardsman ROBINSON J. Grenadier Guards Reinforcement Company
?2615855 (See J Robinson) Guardsman SEANE D. Grenadier Guards Reinforcement Company
?6375 Guardsman WATERHOUSE G. 2nd Battalion Grenadier Guards 5 Company
26121?? Guardsman TURNER J. H. 3rd Battalion Grenadier Guards 2612157 John H Turner
261272? Lance-Corporal SWALLOW W. 3rd Battalion Grenadier Guards 2612729 William A Swallow
26130?? Lance-Corporal WENTWORTH W. R. 3rd Battalion Grenadier Guards 2613069 William R Wentworth (see first line)
261353? Guardsman PINKEY A. H. 3rd Battalion Grenadier Guards 2613533 Arthur H Pinkney (surname spelling)
261355? Guardsman REYNOLDS W. 3rd Battalion Grenadier Guards 2613551 Edward W Reynolds (different initial)
261472? Guardsman RICHES O. G. 3rd Battalion Grenadier Guards 2614724 Oliver G Riches
26148?? Guardsman SMITH E. J. 3rd Battalion Grenadier Guards 2614837 Ernest J Smith
261493? Guardsman POWELL C. 3rd Battalion Grenadier Guards 2614931 Cuthbert C Powell
261565? Lance-Corporal ROBERTS E. D. 3rd Battalion Grenadier Guards 2615653 Edgar D Roberts
2615855 ? (See D Seane) Guardsman ROBINSON J. Grenadier Guards Reinforcement Company
2615855 ? (See J Robinson) Guardsman SEANE D. Grenadier Guards Reinforcement Company
54998? Lance-Corporal WOODLEY S. S. 3rd Battalion Grenadier Guards 5499840 Stanley S Woodley (see previously)


I've looked for those names in the roll of honour and there would appear to be a few definite matches. Hope that is of help.

Note: Arthur H Pinkney and Edward W Reynolds added since first submitting message.


Graham