Great Uncle - 842928 Eric Herbert Charles TUBB, 2 Fd Regt., RA.: 19/05/1940

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  1. Elizabeth Foster

    Elizabeth Foster World War 1 & 2 - great/granddaughter

    Dear All
    My apologies for putting this out again and putting it in the wrong section. New to all of this stuff and researching. I am trying to find out some history and anyone could possibly point me in the right direction too.
    The reason that I am asking is because there is a rumour that has been told over the years throughout the generations that my husbands great uncle wasn’t killed and he is still out there or that he couldn’t remember who he was and etc. I would love to squish that rumour.

    Eric Herbert Charles Tubb was in the 2nd Field Regiment of the 1st Division for the Royal Artillery. In the clipping that I have attached that they were in the woods/river when they were under threat. Did they ever find his body and buried him or just left him there in the woods.
     

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  2. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member

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  3. Elizabeth Foster

    Elizabeth Foster World War 1 & 2 - great/granddaughter

    Yes but I don’t understand where I am meant to put. It took me ages to work this out the second time round.
     
  4. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    I've binned that old one as it was in Resources .
    Use this thread now.

    Here's his CWGC entry.
    Bombardier Eric Herbert Tubb | War Casualty Details 2254392 | CWGC

    CL1 posted this photo yesterday .
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    (Sorry Clive , I can't move your post now)

    Bombardier Eric Herbert Tubb (1917-1940) - Find a Grave Memorial
     
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  5. Tony56

    Tony56 Member Patron

    Elizabeth, If you look at Owen's last link (above) to the 'findagrave' site you will see a 'Graves Registration Report Form' - for some unknown reason the incorrect one is shown. If you follow the link to the CWGC entry and look at the second Graves Registration Report Form you will see the correct one clearly showing that his burial was recorded.

    :poppy:

    ps don't worry about where you posted the messages, all sorted
     
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  6. Elizabeth Foster

    Elizabeth Foster World War 1 & 2 - great/granddaughter

    Okay thank you I don’t want to upset anyone for putting things in the wrong places
     
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  7. davidbfpo

    davidbfpo Patron Patron

    If you wnat to go further that he did die here are some options.

    There is a summary history and calendar for his regiment: 2 Field Regiment RA - The Royal Artillery 1939-45

    If you search online with: "2 field regiment" + "1940" site:ww2talk.com that produces a good number of threads, including their War Diary for May 1940. I have not looked at them in any detail. War Diaries may not specifically name a wounded / dead soldier, but will show what they were doing and where. Caveat: the diary may have been completed after evacuation from Dunkirk, so several weeks later.

    There is a thread that mentions him, which may provide some context and location: 2 Field Regiment, RA. 1940 This was found using his name, using his service number only found this thread.

    Sometimes you can get a picture of what happened to a unit by searching the CWGC database for e.g. dates around 19/5/1940.
     
  8. Uncle Target

    Uncle Target Mist over Dartmoor

    This thread seems to be somewhat confusing

    Suggest that you read through this thread
    Most, if not all that you are seeking is on there.
    including the information on 842928 Eric Herbert Charles TUBB

    2 Field Regiment, RA. 1940

    Member Rowslow did extensive research on casualties of 2nd Field Regiment.

    His body was not left in the woods but lies in the CWGC not far from where he died.

    From #4 above: https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/2254392/eric-herbert-tubb/

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    From another thread ; 67th Field Regt RA TA in the BEF

    The Battle for the Crossing of the Scheldt (Escaut) Esquelmes 21-23 May 1940
    This is a compilation of the entries in the 267 FR Centenary Journal, the 2nd Field Regt War Diary
    and the War Diary 3rd Battalion Grenadier Guards BEF-Sep 1939-June 1940 (ww2t).

    The 67th left Voorde moving to Tournai.
    At 2 pm on the 19th May the Regiment came into action again.
    During the night the Batteries again came under heavy fire and RHQ was Bombed.
    Troop positions were completely overlooked by Mont St Aubert.
    All movement was clearly observed by the enemy.
    2nd Field Regt were at Estaimbourg 42 Battery was bombed in a wood
    2/Lt Ashe and 5 O/R's wounded 3 O/R's killed.

    The next day was quiet except for some enemy airburst ranging overhead.
    In the evening 67th RHQ moved to Templeuve but the guns remained in action and on the
    morning of the 21st came under enemy infantry fire.
    The Germans had crossed the canal (river Scheldt) at Esquelmes pushing back the Coldstream Guards (part of 24 Guards Infantry Brigade) on the left.

    2nd Infantry Brigade had to move their line back to conform but at 1 o'clock
    the North Staffs (led by Brigadier Hudson VC) supported by the Regiment, counter attacked.
    Although in the thick of the infantry battle at times, the Regiment stood firm.
    The Grenadier Guards followed up the attack and by 6pm the enemy were driven back across the canal (River Scheldt).
    For the remainder of the evening the front was quiet and during the night
    RHQ and one troop from each Battery were ordered to withdraw to Le Breucq.
    The remainder of the Regiment stayed in position to act as rear guard for 1st Division,
    in the end as infantry.
    At 2 am, less B Troop (who remained in action for a further half an hour), they were withdrawn to follow the rest of the Regiment to new positions at Lesart outside Lille.
    The 24th was spent catching up on sleep (there had been none for three or four days) and getting sorted out. Rations were down to half and ammunition was scarce.
    The positions were bombed overnight but the Regiment continued in support of 2 Infantry Brigade who wer actively patrolling.
    The Regiment remained in action until the afternoon ofthe 26th May when it was withdrawn to Ploegsteert.
    2nd Field Regt
    21/22ndthe Regt withdrew to Roubaix until 26th May when they began their withdrawal to Ploegstreet
     
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  9. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Its not confusing.
    New member finding their feet (and navigating the forum)and trying to sort fact from family folklore which has been achieved.
     
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