george l lovelock Wilts Regt

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  1. clocktowerkay

    clocktowerkay Junior Member

    Hi im kay, im new to world war 2 talk and as you can probably guess i am looking for help. I am searching for a George L Lovelock, 1st Wilts Regt. i have photos of him in Egypt. Cairo and Mustapha barracks are mentioned. i also have photos of him on the war memorial at East Grafton, Wiltshire. I have always believed him to have been shot by an enemy sniper after the war, can anyone help me? any info would be very gratefully received. ta.
     
    clocktowerkay, Jan 29, 2011
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  2. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Hi Kay,

    Here's his entry on CWGC:

    CWGC :: Certificate :poppy:

    THat says he was in the 2nd battalion. I'm no expert on the Italian campaign but looking where he is buried I would say he died of wounds or in an accident as the cemetery is just north of Naples.
     
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  3. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    welcome to the forum.
    Is this him?
    CWGC :: Casualty Details

    tad confusing as that , as he listed as 2nd Bn & they were in Germany in 1945.
    1st Bn were in India in 1945.
     
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  4. clocktowerkay

    clocktowerkay Junior Member

    ok thanks. the other thing i meant to say was he was a drummer and wore a leopard skin. i will try and find out a bit more info then from the writing on the back of the photos. ta
     
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  5. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Owen, Jan 29, 2011
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  6. clocktowerkay

    clocktowerkay Junior Member

    Thats him. thank you so much, that was so quick especially as i have been trying to find him for 20 years. i am grateful to you all.
     
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  7. clocktowerkay

    clocktowerkay Junior Member

    il have a go at scanning and sending, i will get there eventually, be patient lol!
     
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  8. Owen

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  9. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    ClocktowerKay & Owen

    You may right about him dying of wounds as the 2nd Wilts were in 5th Div which went on to NWE before the war ended on May 2nd '45 - leaving some wounded at Hospitals - probably the 98th Gen - in the Naples area - Caserta being a near suburb of Naples where the cemetery was built early on in the Campaign.

    Forgotten when the 5th Div left Italy as my last recollection of them was at Anzio
    breakout in May '44 which is a long time to be wounded as he would have been sent on to Blighty long before then ....
    Cheers
     
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  10. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    If he was a bandsman I'm wondering if he was destached from parent unit & at Alex's HQ at Caserta for all the ceremonial stuff.

    You're right Tom, the Bn last actions in Italy were during the Anzio breakout, when Sgt Rogers was killed earning a VC.
     
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  11. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Owen -
    More than likely he was at Caserta as a bandsman - not so much for Alex's ceremonials but for the Egoistic Clark's dinner time music.....

    Cheers
     
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  12. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    His service records will probably say who he was attached to in Italy and then that units war diary might explain why.

    It happened a hell of a lot in the 1940 France war diaries with infantrymen attached to a RE unit for example and employed as Batmen. I've also seen them employed in random units as drivers for Padres. The same thing still happens in todays British forces.
     
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  13. clocktowerkay

    clocktowerkay Junior Member

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  14. clocktowerkay

    clocktowerkay Junior Member

    Top photo is george j lovelock. in amongst his photos is a general e. evans. it looks like he was training in Egypt before the war broke out. many thanks for all your help.
     
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  15. Owen

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    Just resized them
     

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  16. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Pre War Regular? The 2nd Picture appears to have been taken in Singapore?
     
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  17. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Top photo is george j lovelock. in amongst his photos is a general e. evans. it looks like he was training in Egypt before the war broke out. many thanks for all your help.
    Pre-war,
    1st Bn in Egypt from 1930 to 1932. Shanghai for several months then onto Singapore until 1936. Then onto India.

    2nd Bn went to Palestine in 1936 until end of 1937 then back to UK.

    Some info from Kenrick's THE WILTSHIRE REGIMENT about Evans, Colonel of the Regiment.

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    Some info from same book on the 1st Bn Wiltshire Regiment Pre-War.

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    Just looking at Paul Reed's photos & I'm sure this is Lovelock's headtone in background.
    I can read Lovelock in 2nd pic.

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    I'd say it was as I checked cemetery plan for his grave plot number & compared it with Hooton's who is visable in Paul's photo.
    CWGC :: Cemetery Plans
    Only other Wilts chap in that cem is in a different plot.
    CWGC :: Casualty Details
     

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  18. Recce_Mitch

    Recce_Mitch Very Senior Member

    Welcome to the forum


    Cheers
    Paul
     
    Recce_Mitch, Jan 29, 2011
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  19. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    ClockTowerKay

    Welcome aboard & good luck with your research !

    Ron
     
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  20. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    I suggest getting a copy of THE WILTSHIRE REGIMENT 1914-1959 by Martin McIntyre.
    https://www.thewardrobe.org.uk/prodInfo.php?prod_id=165

    I've just been flicking through my copy & there are some great photos of the 1st Bn Wilts Regt , Pre-War in Shanghai & one of a Parade at Mustapha Barracks Alexandria 22/12/30.

    I suggest that Lovelock is he did his time with 1st Bn, left army but as was on Reserve list was recalled in 1939 , as his old Bn was in India he was sent to 2nd Bn in UK.
    I still think as he was a rather good musician he stayed in Italy at GHQ when the rest of 2nd Bn went to Germany .
    I know we sound like a stuck record on this forum but might be worth getting his service records , even though there is a long wait.
    >>> service records army
     
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