George Kenneth Scott Lauder, 5 AFPU

I am trying to find military records for the above. He was born in 1924 and joined the army after 1940 we believe. All the info that we have is that he started out in signals but apparently was pretty hopeless with that and so they moved him to the new AFPU when that was set up and he was assigned to Unit 5. We still have some of his photos that I guess he wasn't supposed to have kept copies of. He saw the D-Day Landings, the liberation of Paris and the liberation of Belsen. He took photos at some of the war trials, and also took photos of Montgomery. I can see on the Imperial War Museum section of the AFPU that there's a Sgt. George Laws who looks exactly like George Lauder, so am now going to try that on Forces War Records, but if anyone knows anything else about this unit, I would be grateful! Thanks!!
Lindsay

 

Hi Lindsay

The only place to get military records is from the MOD, nowhere else. FWR do not hold them, nor do any pay-per-view sites.
Get a copy of military service records

Lesley

 

Hello Lindsay,
Are you sure the last name is Lauder and not Laws?
There are no films or photos by a George Lauder at the IWM, which is a pretty good indication that no George Lauder was a cameraman or photographer with the AFPU...
Maybe you could post a few of his photos, of Monty for example, and we'll probably be able to tell you the name of the photographer to whom they are credited.
Michel

 

Dear Lindsay, and all.

Hopefully not a red herring. Lauder is a family name (modern parlance) that has historic Jewish links so don't discount the possibility of a name change (to Laws) either chosen or advised.

Good luck with finding a definitive answer.

Kind regards, always,

Jim.

 

Lindsay1968,

Here's a photo of Sergeant George Laws of 5 AFPU from Cameramen of War by Ian Grant (they worked together during Operation Goodwood.

George Lauder's name is not mentioned in the book.

 

Two different men :

George Edward James LAWS 1916 - 2009

George Kenneth Scott LAUDER 1924 - 1992

Sergeant G.K. Lauder is accredited with two images in the I.W.M. collection
GENERAL MCCREERY'S VISIT TO THE BAOR 'BISLEY' SHOOTING RANGE

GENERAL MCCREERY'S VISIT TO THE BAOR 'BISLEY' SHOOTING RANGE

Sgt. Lauder appears to have served with No.5 Army Film & Photographic Section post-war.
All would be confirmed with a copy of his service records.

Good luck with your research

 

Excellent find Guy!

I missed those two photos by GK Lauder.

By the way, Sgt Laws also came from R Sigs.

Michel

 

Enough here to send off service records:

Record set England & Wales Government Probate Death Index 1858-2019
First name(s) George Kenneth Scott
Last name Lauder
Death year 1992
Death date 18 Sep 1992
Probate year 1993
Probate date 10 Feb 1993
Residence town Croydon
Registry Winchester
County Surrey
Country England

Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
First name(s) GEORGE KENNETH
Last name LAUDER
Gender Male
Birth day 6
Birth month 6
Birth year 1924
Age -
Death quarter 3
Death year 1992
District Bromley
Register number 992
County Kent
Volume 11
Page 1006
Country England

1939 Register
Name: George K Lauder
Gender: Male
Marital status: Single
Birth Date: 6 Jun 1924
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 151
Residence Place: Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England
Occupation: Clerk Engineering Works
Line Number: 15
Schedule Number: 238
Sub Schedule Number: 3
Enumeration District: GALI
Borough: Newcastle-upon-Tyne
Registration district: Newcastle-on-Tyne North
Inferred Father: George Lauder
Inferred Mother: Edith Lauder

 

Oh thank you so much for this!!

Oh thanks so much for this!! I really appreciate it!
Lindsay

 

Just came across this thread the IWM actually hold hundreds of Photographs credited to Sergt G K Lauder . Just input `LAUDER` as below and the images start at image six and go to around page 9 ?

Search our collection | Imperial War Museums


Kyle

 

That's great Kyle !

This search can be refined by clicking on the photographer's name ("Creator") to show only photos shot by "Sergeant G.K. Lauder" (as opposed to all photos whose description contains the word "Lauder"). 211 of them apparently, all shot within the 1945-1989 time frame:

Search our collection | Imperial War Museums

One only has to find one such photo to find the rest, but I somehow miserably failed to do so !

Michel

 

And there's a trick, because he also is listed as "Lauder GK (Sergeant)", yielding 17 additional photos:

Search our collection | Imperial War Museums

so I guess searching for just "Lauder" as you did is the safe way to go so as not to miss any of his photos, in case yet another way is used to classify his pics !

Michel

 

Tony, this is great, thank you. I always thought you had to have a service number to request this. Thanks for the info!
Lindsay

QUOTE="Tony56, post: 893997, member: 18099"]Enough here to send off service records:

Record set England & Wales Government Probate Death Index 1858-2019
First name(s) George Kenneth Scott
Last name Lauder
Death year 1992
Death date 18 Sep 1992
Probate year 1993
Probate date 10 Feb 1993
Residence town Croydon
Registry Winchester
County Surrey
Country England

Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
First name(s) GEORGE KENNETH
Last name LAUDER
Gender Male
Birth day 6
Birth month 6
Birth year 1924
Age -
Death quarter 3
Death year 1992
District Bromley
Register number 992
County Kent
Volume 11
Page 1006
Country England

1939 Register
Name: George K Lauder
Gender: Male
Marital status: Single
Birth Date: 6 Jun 1924
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 151
Residence Place: Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England
Occupation: Clerk Engineering Works
Line Number: 15
Schedule Number: 238
Sub Schedule Number: 3
Enumeration District: GALI
Borough: Newcastle-upon-Tyne
Registration district: Newcastle-on-Tyne North
Inferred Father: George Lauder
Inferred Mother: Edith Lauder[/QUOTE]
T

 

Mr Jinks, I've tried to message you, along with my message to Michel and Guy. Can you PM me please? Thanks so much! Lindsay