Fusilier J R Mathias 1 Royal Welch Fusiliers

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  1. Stephen Nulty

    Stephen Nulty Member

    Morning Chaps

    I'm trying to find anything on Fusilier 4192728 J R Mathias, 1<SUP>st</SUP> Bn., RWF who is remembered on the Dunkirk memorial.

    His date of death is shown as “between 31/05/1940 and 02/06/2940”.

    Any RWF experts out there who can perhaps advise when he may have gone to France and what actions he may have been involved in. Also, why the spread of dates for his death.<O:p</O:p
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    Cheers<O:p</O:p

    SN
     
  2. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Stephen,
    Here is a map from "Dunkirk Fight to the Last Man" by Hugh Sebag Montefiore.
    1 RWF were in 2nd Div.
    The same book states 1RWF had taken 25 officer 490 OR casualties when they reformed in UK after Dunkirk.
    The spread of dates in your post implies to me that after the battle the unit was in retreat and it was chaos and no-one was keeping records.
     

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  3. Stephen Nulty

    Stephen Nulty Member

    Stephen,
    The spread of dates in your post implies to me that after the battle the unit was in retreat and it was chaos and no-one was keeping records.

    Owen

    Many thanks for the map and information. I had assumed that the date of death was as a result of the confusion that no doubt reigned about thast time.

    Cheers
     
  4. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Stephen there's a few pages on 1 RWF at that action in the book.
     

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  5. Arthur

    Arthur Senior Member

    Hi,
    The 1<SUP>st</SUP> Bn., RWF was attached to the 6<SUP>th</SUP> Inf Bde, 2<SUP>nd</SUP> Inf Div, 1<SUP>st</SUP> Corps. On the 24-9-1939 they embarked for <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:smarttags" /><st1:country-region w:st="on">France</st1:country-region> and <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Belgium</st1:place></st1:country-region>.

    Regards
    Arthur
     
  6. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    From Winston Churchill "The Fall of France".
    This map shows when 2nd Div evacuated.
     

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  7. Stephen Nulty

    Stephen Nulty Member

    Owen/Arthur

    Again, many thanks for the information, which is really useful and informative
     
  8. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

  9. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

  10. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    As of 30th May the 6th Brigade (1 RWF's Bde) could only muster 250 men all ranks and were withdrawing North through Bergues to defend the canal line along with the rest of 2 Div.

    He must have been left behind somewhere along the line as the 2 Div were evacuated by 31st May 1940 according to Philson's BEF Orbat.

    I think 1 RWF's war diary is on my list for the next visit at Kew so I'll come back to this when I've got the diary.
     
  11. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    From 30th May to 1st June 1940
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    The following Missing Men file at Kew may contain more details:

    WO 361/89 British Expeditionary Force, France: The Royal Welch Fusiliers; missing men
     
  12. jonheyworth

    jonheyworth Senior Member

    I posted a thread about some unknown RWF dated graves in St Omer
     
  13. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

  14. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Found him - Last seen at Dunkirk.

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  15. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Not sure what the abbreviations mean but I'd guess WIA is wounded in action.
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  16. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Drew, I think that's a badly written 'K'. I'd read that as "Accepted Category C Killed in Action (10/1/42)"

    I have no idea what the categories A,B and C are but all three are used on that page.
     

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