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Discussion in 'User Introductions' started by teresa, Jun 16, 2012.

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  1. teresa

    teresa Junior Member

  2. 4jonboy

    4jonboy Daughter of a 56 Recce

    Can you not accept what it says on the map I have posted. You should apologise to the Veteran you have insulted.

    Goodbye Teresa
     
  3. minden1759

    minden1759 Senior Member

    Teresa.

    I have been watching the posts from Lesley and Tom. I have studied the battles of Cassino and Anzio for years and I can assure you that the Eighth Army was not at Anzio. Both Tom and Lesley are right.

    It was very much a US Fifth Army operation. What could have happened is that your father, being a gunner, could have been transferred to a British Artillery Regiment fighting under command of US Fifth Army at Anzio. Lots of British units, notably 1 British Infantry Division, 5 British Infantry Division and 56 British Infantry Division and lots of Artillery Regiments fought under US Fifth Army. It was also very common for artillerymen to switch Regiments for specific operations.

    Once you have your hands of your father's Record of Service, all will be revealed.

    Regards

    FdeP
     
  4. 4jonboy

    4jonboy Daughter of a 56 Recce

    Teresa.

    I have been watching the posts from Lesley and Tom. I have studied the battles of Cassino and Anzio for years and I can assure you that the Eighth Army was not at Anzio. Both Tom and Lesley are right.

    It was very much a US Fifth Army operation. What could have happened is that your father, being a gunner, could have been transferred to a British Artillery Regiment fighting under command of US Fifth Army at Anzio. Lots of British units, notably 1 British Infantry Division, 5 British Infantry Division and 56 British Infantry Division and lots of Artillery Regiments fought under US Fifth Army. It was also very common for artillerymen to switch Regiments for specific operations.

    Once you have your hands of your father's Record of Service, all will be revealed.

    Regards

    FdeP

    Don't waste your time, some people will just NOT accept whatever anyone says. I am afraid she is not only rude but will not admit when she is wrong.
    I don't think anyone is disputing the fact that her father told her he was at Anzio, he probably was, but not with the 8th Army.

    Lesley
     
  5. teresa

    teresa Junior Member

  6. teresa

    teresa Junior Member

  7. 4jonboy

    4jonboy Daughter of a 56 Recce

    Reprimand Tom? I am sorry but it is not my place to do so.

    I am pleased however that you have finally accepted that your father did not fight at Anzio with the 8th Army.

    If you would like to continue posting here I am sure other members would contribute to any other questions you may have, but please be prepared to accept others views and have an open mind.

    Lesley

    ps It seems my post came too late for you to accept any help we can give to you
     
  8. Gage

    Gage The Battle of Barking Creek

    If this thread carries on beyond the 'User Introduction' as it has then I'll close it.
     
  9. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    Teresa, you need to take a chill pill.

    And please don't insult our veterans just because what they say contradicts what you think you know.
     
  10. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    I can't believe I missed this thread :lol:

    I'll give you an excellent example of what families swear by and you can decide that sometimes they may just get it slightly wrong....

    My partners family swore blind and continued to state that he served in the 1st Battalion South Lancashire Regiment from the start of the war and was wounded on D-Day. Being that I'm a tad interested in the British Expeditionary Force upto the evacuation of troops at Dunkirk I decided to do some digging. Much was assumed from unit war diaries held at the National Archives-I even showed my girlfriend where he would have been fighting at Nieuport in Belgium defending the perimeter and where he was evacuated in May 1940.

    Finally the service records arrived and guess what- 99% was wrong. He served with 2/4th Bn South Lancs and never went to France in 1940. He served with them until circa 1943 and was transfered to a East Lancs Battalion where he trained as a Anti-Tank gunner, he stayed in the UK until mid June when he was a battlefield casualty replacement to a Parachute battalion and no less than two days in France, long after D-Day he was wounded and that was the end of his war.

    When I was in the Army I was told believe nothing of what you hear, half of what you read and everything you see.

    Good luck.
     
  11. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Cracking thread. So many posts with so little punctuation.

    The real test of whether anyone was at Anzio is to ascertain if they could say Mark Clark's name without prefixing with the 'F' word.
     
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  12. teresa

    teresa Junior Member

    hillarious made me laugh so much
     
  13. teresa

    teresa Junior Member

    I never could punctuate
     
  14. Alanst500

    Alanst500 Senior Member

    This thread has been one big joke to someone posting, in my opinion.
     
  15. teresa

    teresa Junior Member

  16. 17thDYRCH

    17thDYRCH Senior Member

    Teresa,
    I hope you have enjoyed the to and fro.
    Tom Canning is a personal friend of mine. Your comments in reply to his attempt to assist you in your research are way offside. In Canada, we play the game of hockey. May I award you a game misconduct which in football terms is a red card.
    Goodbye. PERIOD.
     
  17. teresa

    teresa Junior Member

  18. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    In years of running this place, one thing I have learned as a mostly impartial observer, is that 'Family memory' and Military service is 'A funny old thing'.

    Get the service records, and all will hopefully be revealed, but I'd have thought being prepared for surprise twists and turns was all part of the Journey.
    That's not 'undermining', it's solid enquiry into the murky depths of history.

    eg. There was one part of the WW2 world I was convinced my Grandad was in, it was all I was sure about...
    Turned out he never even went there.
    This is the nature of the beast.

    Tom wasn't being rude in the slightest, he was politely pointing out possible gaps and inconsistencies; the sort of stuff that enquirers here find out on every second thread of this type.

    If he wants to be rude, he's really rather good at it, and that just wasn't it...

    ~A
     
  19. jacksun

    jacksun Senior Member

    Quite an entertaining thread. However, there is one thing I will not stand by idly and not respond to.

    They DO NOT play hockey in England. That is like saying they play European class football in the U.S.
    They might play Field Hockey in England, but the difference between that and real Canadian Hockey is like the difference between the 5th and 8th Armies in WW2, not even close to each other.

    Wayne
     
  20. teresa

    teresa Junior Member

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