Early Motorcycle

Discussion in 'The Barracks' started by Smudger Jnr, Feb 13, 2009.

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  1. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    I came upon this contraption on one of my visits to the Luftwaffen Museum at Gatow.

    It appears to be a very early motorcycle and so I took a few photographs for all you bikers on the forum.

    I was wondering if there was a military connection, but as it was a new exhibit just going on display there was no references to it.

    Does anyone know of this type of motorcycle?

    Regards
    Tom
     

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  2. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Is it a early version of one of these:
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  3. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    I believe so! :D

    Regards
    Tom
     
  4. Gerard

    Gerard Seelow/Prora

    Its very like an 1898 Werner motorised bicycle or its equivalent. Werner wasnt a German make though, so I dont know who made it.
     
  5. Peter Clare

    Peter Clare Very Senior Member

    Looks like an old bone shaker....:)
     
  6. Gerard

    Gerard Seelow/Prora

    Looks like an old bone shaker....:)
    I wonder did the red flag act apply to motorcycles and motorised bicycles??? :lol:
     
  7. Heimbrent

    Heimbrent Well-Known Member

    Looks like a vélosolex (German wiki, but the English equivalent shows only one image)
     
  8. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Looks quite a bit later than the earliest motorbikes.
    I think Heimbrent's on the money with more of a powered bicycle.
     
  9. Gerard

    Gerard Seelow/Prora

    Oh its definitely a powered bicycle, no question. But I still hold out hope its more like the werner!
     
  10. Heimbrent

    Heimbrent Well-Known Member

  11. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    I had to do some serious thinking on this one. The side valve motor looked too large for an ordinary 'hilfmotor' and the carburettor and oiling system are not that early - 1920s or so. It rang a bell but a long time ago.

    I reckon it's a Flottweg but I have no idea what the Luftwaffe connection is.

    http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2280/2247123528_1442b36231.jpg?v=0

    I think that I'd quite like a go on one :)
     
  12. Recce_Mitch

    Recce_Mitch Very Senior Member

    Bikes have come a long way since then.

    Cheers
    Paul
     
  13. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    Rich,

    I have to say that it looked well engineered considering it was a bolt on type motor and the original bicycle chain and drive are still present.

    The frame looks a little more robust and stronger than your average bicycle and so believe that it was built with a motor in mind from the design stage.

    It looks like you are correct with the picture that you posted.

    Regards
    Tom
     

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