7378122 Pte William John GILES 184 Field Ambulance, RAMC: 04/03/1943, Desert Casualty

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  1. nemesis

    nemesis Senior Member

    Does anyone know anything about this WW2 casualty. I have got the basics on him :


    1939-45 Star; Africa Star; War Medal 1939-45, in Mailer Box of issue with Condolence slip awarded to 7378122 Pte William John Giles 184 Field Ambulance RAMC.

    WJ Giles was listed on the British Casualty lists as being killed in action aged 28 on the 4th of March 1943 in Tunisia North Africa . He was the son of Alfred John and Mary Jane Giles : Husband of Carmelia Giles of Freuchie , Fife

    The three WWII Medals with Box were addressed to Mrs C Giles, Victoria Buildings High St. Freuchie Fife

    Pte Giles was buried at Beja War Cemetery Tunisia. He was born 10 April 1915 in Kingswood Bristol

    His Wife , Carmelia died Suddenly, but peacefully. after a short illness. at Lomond Vale Nursing Home. Falkland, on Saturday. November 3. 1990. She did not remarry.


    https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/2822402/william-john-giles/
     
  2. Uncle Target

    Uncle Target Mist over Dartmoor

    killed in action aged 28 on the 4th of March 1943 in Tunisia North Africa.
    Probably due to actions following these links for the battles in the hills of Tunisia
    (Not the Desert, there is no real desert in Tunisia):

    For a very good up to date view of the Hills watch this video although the actions are in April 1943.



    There are a number of threads regarding Beja on the forum just scroll down the recent postings,
    see Sidi Nsir
    Also 155 Field Battery, Royal Artillery, there is an account by the Royal Hampshire's:

    The Battle of Sidi Nsir, Tunisia - The Royal Hampshire Regiment Museum

    There was much fighting to follow.
    So much to be searched online.

    Sidi Nsir - 155th Battery/172 Field Regiment RA

    There is a book "The Plain Cook and the Great Showman" by Gregory Blaxland which I bought s/h online at a very reasonable price.
    It covers the battles that followed in detail and the whole campaign.
    Including
    4th March at Tamera 6 miles west of Sedjenane 67 Km north of Beja towards the coast.

    This was the 1st not the 8h Army in the hills and mountains of Tunisia. The 8th were motorised desert fighters moving at speed.
    These battlefields had to be climbed.

    Enjoy the journeys.

    You now need his Regiments War Diary entry for 4th March 1943 co confirm what happened that day if it is entered there but being an O/R his name is unlikely to be mentioned.
    As you are not related, I doubt that a Service Record would tell you more than you have already.
     
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  3. Uncle Target

    Uncle Target Mist over Dartmoor

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  4. nemesis

    nemesis Senior Member

    Thanks for the great pointers. I will look these up . I had a look on newspapers online. Just the usual casualty report.
    thanks again for taking the time to reply.
    M
     
  5. Green-genes

    Green-genes New Member

    Just following these 155/SidiNsir threads while I try to understand how these posts link. Stan Green was the BSM of E Troop at Sidi Nsir. Any anecdotes / mentions in any diarirs welcomed. See 155 dinner 1942 photo /191853 - for many of those training for action there. I have been trying to link those named to CWGC/PoW records.

    So for I find [of those named] 5 in CWGC records : PoWs - 12 of E & 19 of F Troop posibilities.
    Where are the names of those lost on the sinking the Jean Janot listed ?

    There is a Gnr Standing shown in F Troop photo - Is that Charlie of the Film title? Was he actually Hampshire Regt. or 155th Field RA attached ?
     
  6. davidbfpo

    davidbfpo Patron Patron

    Green-genes,

    Welcome aboard. As this thread is titled for a RAMC casualty it may be useful to copy your post above to the 155 / SidiNsir threads, where those interested are more likely t spot it (adding you posted it here).
     
  7. Green-genes

    Green-genes New Member

    That would be good - if I could find out how?
     
  8. davidbfpo

    davidbfpo Patron Patron

    Green-genes,

    The forum's search facility has limitations, so if you search with "sidi nsir" + "ww2talk.com" on Google, or another search engine, you will discover there are several threads here which may have the answer.

    An earlier post here shows: Sidi Nsir - 155th Battery/172 Field Regiment RA That thread shows a Tag on the top line, following that you will see two other tagged threads on Sidi Nisir; you can only add a tag when composing the first post, hence using a search engine to establish if there are more.

    A PM too in a moment on research.
     
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  9. Thistle746

    Thistle746 Active Member

    I find this very interesting. My grandfather served in the RAMC (167 Field Ambulance). Although he was in the Tunisian desert, he wouldn’t have been there in March ‘43. My records suggest that he would have still been in Egypt. Nonetheless, what does interest me is that WJ Giles and my grandfather both hailed from Freuchie in Fife, Scotland. Fruechie is little more than a hamlet village (today boasting a population of around 800 at best). The families must have known each other. If you find out more please PM me. I’ll do the same in kind.

    PS: My grandads records are also posted on this same topic ‘Thomas C Wilson, RAMC’
     
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    davidbfpo Patron Patron

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  11. nemesis

    nemesis Senior Member

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  12. nemesis

    nemesis Senior Member

    heres what I have on Giles


    1939-45 Star; Africa Star; War Medal 1939-45, in Mailer Box of issue with Condolence slip awarded to 7378122 Pte William John Giles 184 Field Ambulance RAMC.

    WJ Giles was listed on the British Casualty lists as being killed in action aged 28 on the 4th of March 1943 in Tunisia North Africa . He was the son of Alfred John and Mary Jane Giles : Husband of Carmelia Giles of Freuchie , Fife

    The three WWII Medals with Box were addressed to Mrs C Giles, Victoria Buildings High St. Freuchie

    Pte Giles was buried at Beja War Cemetery Tunisia

    His Wife , Carmelia died Suddenly, but peacefully. after a short illness. at Lomond Vale Nursing Home. Falkland, on Saturday. November 3. 1990. She did not remarry. £160.00





    Courier and Advertiser Fife 7th November 1990

    GlLES.—Suddenly, but peacefully. after a short illness. at Lomond Vale Nursing Home. Falkland. on Saturday. November 3. 1990. Carmelia (Lena) Dalrymple. of Lyndale Back Street. Freuchie, beloved wile of the late Jack Giles. loved sister of Ina and the late Ann and May. and a dear aunt. Funeral service in Freuchie Parish Church. on Wednesday. November 7.11 12 noon. thereafter to Falkland Cemetery for 12.30 p.m. Friends please accept this (the only) intimation and invitation.

    ( Parents James and Janet (Morgan) Dalrymple ,married at Markinch Fife in 1894)

    Memorial: Kingswood - Holy Trinity Church

    Regiment: Royal Army Medical Corps

    Medals: 1939–45 Star, War Medal 1939–1945

    Rank and number: Private 7378122

    Parents: Alfred John and Mary Jane Giles

    Marital status: Married

    Home address: 3 Castle Road, Hopewell Hill, Kingswood, Bristol

    Pre-war occupation: Grocer's Shop Assistant

    Date of birth: 10/04/1915

    Date of death: 04/03/1943

    Buried/Commemorated at: Buried at Beja War Cemetery (Ref. I. H. 8.), Tunisia and commemorated on Kingswood Memorial

    Age: 27

    Further information:

    William was the son of a grocery warehouse man and in the grocery trade himself.

    William served in the Tunisian Campaign as a field ambulance man and died during hostilities in the course of his medical duty.



    By kind permission, this information is based on the following source





    Three WWII Medals with Box Addressed to Mrs C Giles, Victoria Buildings High St. Freuchie

    He married Camelia DALRYMPLE in 1942 Falkland Fife



    nearest I could get for a birth was a William Giles Born Kirkcaldy 1926
     
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  13. Jonathan Grobler

    Jonathan Grobler New Member

    I have a military medal group to stretcher bearer edgar Seymour Thompson, same unit ( 184 field ambulance) would love to find out more about his service , & where the unit served in ww2
    Any help appreciated
     
  14. Jonathan Grobler

    Jonathan Grobler New Member

    i have a military medal to edgar seymour thompson , 184 field ambulance , it was awarded for action on tthe day william john giles was killed
     
  15. nemesis

    nemesis Senior Member

    do you have the citation for his MM
    M
     

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