CWGC Archives, Exhumation & Re-burial returns: Maps, Map References Help requests

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Rob, that's 014694! Go left 20000.

 

Unfortunately, I only copied the right side of map 7F/1, not the left side that Andrew correctly pointed out to me. I got this three years ago at Kew and no longer have the file reference it can be found in. Unless someone else has a copy, Cordinates Translater can be used, but I've found you don't get pinpoint accuracy.

 

Kyle, a six figure grid reference conventionally describes a 100m square, so there is plenty of scope for separate graves within that area. It's quite approximate even if it's as accurate as they could make it.

 

I've used the Coordinates translator and this is what it comes up with.

 

Wow! Thanks, it looks a lonely place

Regards

Kyle

 

Here’s GSGS 4250 150,000 7F/1 Caen.



The Grid Reference shows the location a bit further south than the Coordinates Translator.

Richard

 

Thank you Richard, for the clarification .Appreciate the information and help received from all


Kyle



Ps Passed this info to Jim (Verrieres) who asked me to pass on his thanks .

 

That's why I mentioned that the Cordinates translator is not that great for accuracy. I've found it a 1000 metres out on occasion during my own research. Thanks for posting the section of the map.

 

Hi

The Concentration docs I have looked at relating to casualties in Greece sadly do not have such a column. But they do have a "for official use only" and the majority filled with "C.H.".

Anyone have any idea what "C.H." means?

Gus

 

That's a good question Gus. My grandfather has C.H. in that column too.

 

C.H ...COMMISSION HEADSTONE



Kyle

 

Excellent stuff Kyle, thanks.

Are there any other abbreviations used in that column that we are likely to see that you know of?

Save me asking later when I find one.

Gus

 

Many thanks Kyle.

 

Not sure where they will appear but some of the abbreviations are here some ;-

P.M = PRIVATE MEMORIAL

F.V.F= FINAL VERIFICATION FORMS

P.I = PERSONAL INSCRIPTION.

G.R.C + GRAVES REGISTRATION COMMISSION

D.G.R.E= DIRECTORATE GRAVES REGISTRATION and ENQUIRIES

F.N = FOREIGN NATIONAL

R.C.O= RECOGNISED CIVILIAN ORGANISATIONS

C.R.= COMPREHENSIVE REPORT (Another name for a Graves Registration Report)

G.R.R = GRAVES REGISTRATION REPORT

C =COMMON GRAVE (no exclusive right of burial granted and which may be or has been used for other burials usually commemorated on Screen Wall)

F.F= COFFIN USED FOR BURIAL

F.P.N.I.= FAMILY PERMANENT(memorial)NO INSCRIPTION

M.= MILITARY GRAVE(rights of exclusive burial acquired by military authorities)

M.P.= MILITARY PERMANENT MEMORIAL

M.W.= MILITARY WOODEN (Memorial)

P.P.= PRIVATE PERMANENT (Memorial)

Pp. = PAUPER (Grave)

Pr. = PRIVATE GRAVE (rights of exclusive burial acquired by private individual)

P.W.- PRIVATE WOODEN ( Memorial)

U.B.S = UNKNOWN BRITISH SOLDIER

U.C.S.= UNKNOWN CANADIAN SOLDIER

U.A.S.= UNKNOWN AUSTRALIAN SOLDIER

W.G.R1/=WAR GRAVES REPORT 1(Form used to apply for relocating war graves normally into a permanent war cemetery).

G.B list= GRAVES LIST PROVIDED BY GERMAN SOURCES (Not held by the CWGC)

(HLG/…., SL/……., XY/…….., EF/…….,)= these are old file references referring to internal documents used by the CWGC. Most of these files have been destroyed so their purpose/meaning is unclear


(Source CWGC)

Kyle

 

interesting already, although hard to search for example :

JONKERBOS CEM, the records of one man lead you onto :

Brennan M 75 sqd 1 - 2 -45 7 of his crew are missing, he was buried in VILT till 15-5-51

which leads onto row xxiii H1 UBS from Elden
H2 Brennan
H4 Polish pilot from Imjuiden - not on register cos Pole
M8 UBS from Dodewaard

then onto row XXII F9 UBS from Elst
E9 UBS from mook
A9 UBS from Haalderen

and onto where some casualties from Bomber command buried in Berlin were found in Germany, all on one download concentration report !!

I think you have to pick one man in a cemetery download the documents, and see what it brings up !

 

Just looking at some details for Kohima the temp burials are very useful with the different battles in which they fell used as a Prefix ie Garrison Hill Cemetery? Annoyingly on the bottom of the concentration documents it has `For remarks PTO` but the other sides haven't been scanned

Kyle

 

Morning,

I'm finding a few units pencilled in on the concentration papers, previously only referred to as 'Royal Engineer's, 'Royal Artillery' etc,

Regards,

Graeme

 

Thanks again Kyle. Really great stuff.

Gus