CWGC Archives, Exhumation & Re-burial returns: Maps, References & other related enquires

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  1. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Inline with the 70th anniversary of the end of WW2 the CWGC is opening all its casulaty records to the public for free of charge online.
    http://www.cwgc.org/news-events/news/2015/5/ww2-casualty-archive-documents-shared-online.aspx
     
    Drew5233, May 9, 2015
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  2. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Andy
    thanks for the heads-up
     
    dbf, May 10, 2015
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  3. BrianM59

    BrianM59 Senior Member

    They must have been digitising away in the background all this time....
     
    BrianM59, May 10, 2015
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  4. colinhotham

    colinhotham Senior Member

    A great addition to research tools!
     
    colinhotham, May 10, 2015
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  5. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    No probs, I noticed it on CWGCs Facebook page yesterday. I'm quite excited about this - I hope it doesn't turn into a damp squib
     
    Drew5233, May 10, 2015
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  6. Recce_Mitch

    Recce_Mitch Very Senior Member

    Looks like I'll have some more work to do come August, thanks for the information

    Cheers
    Paul
     
    Recce_Mitch, May 10, 2015
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  7. bamboo43

    bamboo43 Very Senior Member Patron

    This may unravel a burial mystery for 67 of my boys in Rangoon War Cemetery. Holding my breath till VJ Day.
     
    bamboo43, May 10, 2015
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  8. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Asking for some help here with map reference for field graves in Holland. I never learned how to work out locations. :rolleyes:

    CWGC return states:

    West side of main road
    GSGS 2541
    1/100000
    Sheet 5
    701658

    This, I am guessing, would be somewhere between Lent and Elst. I happen to have a sketch map with rough location, drawn by the person who dug the field graves, so it would be nice to confirm.



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    dbf, Aug 12, 2015
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  9. Capt.Sensible

    Capt.Sensible Well-Known Member

    Hello D,

    GSGS 2541 - refers to the general area covered by the map, Holland.
    1/100000 - is the scale
    Sheet 5 - is the detailed sheet within the general area, in this case S'Hertogenbosch.
    701658 - is the grid reference, 701 being the easting, 658 the northing.

    Looking at this online copy of GSGS 2541 sheet 5:

    http://digitalarchive.mcmaster.ca/islandora/object/macrepo:8860

    the given location is west of the railway line and main road and near Fort Lent, just north-west of Lent itself.

    :)

    CS
     
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  10. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Thanks H for explanation and for finding a map to guide me
    Brilliant.

    Just to check that I've followed correctly
    the location is in this grid, (to the west of the road SE/NW) at the intersection of 70.1 and 65.8
    Screen Shot 2015-08-12 at 13.52.03.png
     
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  11. Capt.Sensible

    Capt.Sensible Well-Known Member

    Spot on, D!
    :)

    CS
     
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  12. Buteman

    Buteman 336/102 LAA Regiment (7 Lincolns), RA Patron

    I've uploaded a 1:25,000 map for you D, showing the same area, with more detail.

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  13. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Thanks very much Rob,

    what's the rough date of the map?
    and do those green circles denote orchards?
     
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  14. Buteman

    Buteman 336/102 LAA Regiment (7 Lincolns), RA Patron

    The map is 6SW, dated 1943 and you are correct. Orchards or Nurseries.
     
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  15. Mr Jinks

    Mr Jinks Bit of a Cad

    Hi,
    I did not want to impose on DBFs post but I have a similar question.
    If two soldiers have the same reference is it fair to assume they initially shared a grave or just a map reference ? It does state Grave 1 and Grave 2 but I just need to check.
    I took a look at Verrieres Uncle but found another soldier from a different battalion had the same initial reference? Sorry but whilst I can understand Scale I cannot work out what this means or where it is on a modern map?

    Verrieres 7F/1 1/50000 814.694

    Thanks for looking

    Kyle
     
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  16. Nijmegen

    Nijmegen Member

    Man from Wiltshire Regiment? They lost a lot of men at the junction.

    Exact location.

    [​IMG]
     
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  17. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Hi Kyle,
    I wouldn't have minded you adding to the other thread. It can still easily be turned it into a general enquiry thread for these matters ...?

    Anyway, just to say that the single map ref given in my example was for 12 individuals on the same sheet of paper. And to be specific, single field graves were definitely dug for each of the dead who were mentioned in the account given to me.

    CWGC IG, GRAVES OOSTERBEEK CONCENTRATION 1.JPG

    Hope you get help with the map reference
     
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  18. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Cheers
    this was 3IG man, killed further north, brought back for field burial, along with 2ArmdIG casualties.
     
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  19. Mr Jinks

    Mr Jinks Bit of a Cad

    Hello Diane,
    Thank you .I didn't want to presume, but if the mods want to combine the two that's fine with me. At least I know there were two graves :)

    Thanks

    Kyle
     
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  20. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    merged, pinned and moved from NWE
    to War Cemeteries & War Memorial Research
     
    dbf, Aug 12, 2015
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