Crecy and Agincourt anyone?

There you all go forgetting the Welsh AGAIN! and look we all know that Henry V, was Welsh so there you go............. see the flag now thats a flag!

Henry v...welshed on us...a horse a horse my kingdom for a horse...the operative word here being horse...a dragon wouldnt fit..although the welsh as we know see all four legged creatures as dragons...which is one reason I dont let dolly me sheep out in Harlech..the other reason is dolly is scared of welshmen...but back to agincourt...Any one have any details on the "new" theories as to the battle?

 

I like sound of this, see if your ancestors fought in 100 Years War.

Did your ancestors fight at Agincourt? War records of 250,000 medieval soldiers go online | Mail Online

No-one with my surname was there.

The Soldier in Later Medieval England

Lots of Owens though.

 

When we had a cottage in Normandy I (carefully) asked one of our very friendly neighbours about French history of the battle of Agincourt and she had a slightly different opinion to the usual English one, although she did say the French lost!
Why do we call it AGINCOURT and the French AZINCOURT?

Mike L

 

Lots of Owens though.


Well - all those WELSH longbowmen, of course!

 

but nothing from 1345!


That's probably because he'd have had to vacate the room by 1100!

 

Have I missed it or have you not posted your souvenier detals mon ami....would be interested to know what you have come across..

Is there a place to do so? A wooden ration tin case (part of), anti-tank shell case, bullet, Nazi coin, squashed tube of toothpaste...

 

I am planning to include Agincourt on my next school tour in October 2010. We previously visited in 1997 on the actual anniversary of the battle when there were a large number of English, French and Belgian re-enactors present. It is interesting to read the contrasting recent books by Juliet Barker (which Cornwell relied heavily upon for his 'Azincourt') and Professor Anne Curry, who, after extensive archival research believes that the English were only slightly outnumbered and that the standard 'Happy Few' account of the battle is a product of late-medieval English spin-doctors.
As previously indicated by Owen, Professor Curry is behind a website and database called: The Soldier in Later Medieval England
From this I learned, for example, that a certain John Hone was a Man-At-Arms in Henry V's army in 1415.

 

I think history has a lot of spin involvement. Unfortunately without physical evidence to counter what in most cases is little more than a chronilogical writing. Then we can only summise the truth. Im heavilly down on the physical evidence side of things before trying to disaprove. But aint daft enough to recognise that somethings written cannot have happened in the way written. So we have an impasse. Were so many French knights killed in the numbers we talk of... Surely as knights they are going to be recorded in families..although many were of recent knighthood? If this can be proved then the other figures csn be wronged or righted as if the one is accurate or wrong then the army numbers will probably be similar?.

 

When we visited 12 years ago I contacted a young englishwoman who lived near Agincourt with her family and did guided tours of the battlefield complete with replica armour and longbows. I've lost touch with her since. Does anyone know if by chance she still does this?

 

Popped over there on 19th August.
Didn't go in visitor's centre, was in a rush to get back to the beach after several days of rain.
Just wanted to say I'd been there.

 

600 years since Agincourt this year.

 

fix your photos!

 

Sadly, according to Dr Anne Curry, the world's leading expert on Agincourt, it appears that there is no real basis for the idea that the 'two-fingered salute' dates back to the Hundred Years War. The two-fingered gesture itself seems to be in the process of being replaced in this country by the American single-finger variety. Not that I go in for it a lot myself, you understand.

 

Interesting to read that the mention of Cannon being used by the English at Crecy. Not sure how true or accurate it is.

 

Perfectly true and accurate!

 

Someone had to post this story so it may as well go here.

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As there isn’t a great tradition in the Royal Navy of naming vessels after land battles, I think that it is more surprising that Agincourt was ever selected. The most notable Agincourt was a misfit dreadnought whose seizure may have given impetus to the Ottoman Empire joining the Central Powers. The last one, a Battle class destroyer, was scraped fifty years ago.

 

I understand "The King", starring Timothee Chalamet, is a remake of "Henry V."

 

I went to both battlefields with the Battlefields Trust around 2000. Great trip. The Trust's tours were not really guide led. At Crecy Robert Hardy and Matthew Strickland gave their different interpretation of the battle. I heard another from Michael Prestwick which led me to argue that Crecy should be the first battle honour of the Royal Artillery Will archaeology confirm Crécy (1346) as the first honour title of The Royal Artillery? | The Observation Post
Others on the trip were Donald Featherstone.