Cap badge

Discussion in 'Prewar' started by Joseph 1921, Jan 5, 2020.

  1. Joseph 1921

    Joseph 1921 Member

    234387D4-21CD-426A-B635-7065AC7FAE2E.jpeg wondered if someone could identify the cap badge and rank of this soldier in the picture.
    Many thanks,Steve
     
  2. idler

    idler GeneralList

    North Staffordshire Regiment and looks like a Second Lieutenant.
     
  3. Joseph 1921

    Joseph 1921 Member

    Many thanks, idler
     
  4. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member

    It looks like a WW1 era photo. I can see 3 overseas service chevrons above his rank badge on his right cuff and think I can make out a wound stripe in the same position on his left cuff.

    Steve
     
  5. Joseph 1921

    Joseph 1921 Member

    Thank you Steve, food for thought as this is an unknown person but in a box of family photos. Thanks again
     
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  6. Robert-w

    Robert-w Banned

    Early WW1 as he is wearing his rank markings on the cuff/lower sleeve. Once German snipers cottoned on to identifying officers shoulder pips were worn.
     
  7. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member

    Overseas service chevrons introduced Dec 1917 and wound stripes in summer 1916 so the photo in that tunic wasn’t taken “early WW1”.

    Steve
     
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  8. minden1759

    minden1759 Senior Member

    The chap has no gallantry or campaign medals so it may be immediately after the war. The likelihood of a 2Lt with three overseas chevrons surviving the war whilst serving in the infantry was very low.

    Regards

    Frank
     
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  9. timuk

    timuk Well-Known Member

    Agree. 'Pips' did appear during WW1 (first unofficially then semi-officially) but cuff stripes were not abolished until 1920.

    Tim
     
  10. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member

    Hi Frank,

    I agree but ge could however be a late war 2nd Lt commissioned from the ranks with accumulated overseas service prior to commissioning.

    Steve
     
  11. Pat Atkins

    Pat Atkins Patron Patron

    Overseas chevrons but no medal ribbons date this fairly precisely I think, as the British War & Victory medals were issued for overseas service (though in fairness officers weren't obliged to apply for theirs); can't offhand recall the dates though, sorry. Also he might belong to a TF unit, which were often a bit idiosyncratic in their use of badges of rank, etc.

    Anyway, I'd suggest you post this over on the Great War Forum and see what they can come up with.

    Cheers, Pat
     
  12. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member

    Hi,

    I don't think GWF could provide more than we have collectively posted (some of us are on both forums) in response to the query raised - all OP asked for was Cap Badge (Regiment) and Rank which we have covered. OP doesn’t have a name.

    Steve
     
  13. Pat Atkins

    Pat Atkins Patron Patron

    Fair point!

    Cheers, Pat
     
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