Some good info on them here: CANLOAN Army Officers Association This image on the site shows the formations they fought with: Roll of them here: CANLOAN Army Officers Association
The other thing I thought of was how in the old Canadian War Museum, there was a clothes rack of battle dress and it was all the various Canloan uniforms. It was really striking to see. Somebody might have a picture of it lurking in a box somewhere. Just skimming through the book, the receipt fell out. Bought it July 12, 1994. We had a chap here in town who was with the 1 Royal Hampshire Regt, Capt. EB Fleming. Good fellow. cheers, phil
Thanks Sapper That's the part I was curious about. Sometimes, even subtle differences in culture can be difficult, so good to hear that they seemed to blend in. A very novel experiment when you think about it.
Had several canloan officers served with the 5th Camerons, one of which, Captain Archie Fox, was a very good friend of my Father. Archie Fox (left) with my Father, Liege January 1st 1945.
Nice pic. Thanks. Gives the term 'Allies' a much deeper meaning when you see the degree of cooperation and interaction between British and Canadian forces.
Canuk - It shouild also be recalled that in Italy - after the 5th Canadian Armoured division finally arrived at Ortona -they fell foul of Monty - and were fired - both the British 21st and 25th Tank brigades were brought in for support - the 25th took 2nd bde of the 1st Canadian through the Liri Valley when we took over and took them through the Florence "scam" and then on to the Gothic Line - Winter Line at the Senio until they all left for Belgium in the February of '45....my Battalion were in support of the Seaforths mainly - with odd skirmishes with the PPCLI and Loyal Eddies and now and again with the Vandoos......it was a happy and successful period of war. Meanwhile the 1st Canadian Armoured Brigade were over toward Florence with a British Division - again successfully. Cheers !
It appears that this casualty rate for the 623 Canloan officers must be higher than average but maybe that was normal for junior Infantry Officers at the time (most were lieutenants). Anyone care to comment? CANLOAN Casualties: Killed in Action or died of wounds128 (20%)Wounded310 (50%) Prisoners of war27 (5% ) Total Casualties465 (75%)
The official report on this is quite interesting:- http://www.cmp-cpm.forces.gc.ca/dhh-dhp/his/rep-rap/doc/cmhq/cmhq145.pdf
Hi Where are a few that were killed or died of wounds at Arnhem... Here is the list KOSB CDN 169 Lieutenant Albert E. Kipping KIA CDN 477 Lieutenant Albert E. Wayte 1st Batt The Border Reg CDN 318 Lieutenant John A. Wellbelove South Staffords CDN 535 Captain B.W.H Hingston Cheers Tom
Hi all, A small cabinet containing a Canloan roll of honour and a mug has been removed from the Red Lion in Colchester with the blessing of the Canloan officers association in Canada , and taken to the Canadian embassy in London, from were it will be sent to Canada to be displayed in the National War Museum, Mr Eddie slater of the NVA, who some years ago rescued these artifacts from the cellar of the Red Lion, restored and replaced them in in their rightfull place has overseen this move, to ensure their security, and that their history is never lost, LOFTY
A good move the association with Colchester will still be maintained through the display and I presume a history of the artifacts.
A nice touch! I'll take a look for these the next time I'm in Ottawa. I've always been somewhat fascinated by the concept of officers being loaned from one country to another. Obviously, the Canadian army was organized around the British model and used the same tactics and equipment, etc. That would make the transition easier but I often wondered how the average British infantryman viewed these alien officers dropped into their midst.
That would make the transition easier but I often wondered how the average British infantryman viewed these alien officers dropped into their midst. No different to mixed Aircrews from different Commonwealth countries I imagine. The Commonwealth had much closer ties back then unlike today.
The next field return in the file ia April and he is missing from the list so I suspect he was transferred.
It appears that this casualty rate for the 623 Canloan officers was higher than average but maybe that was normal for junior Infantry Officers at the time (most were lieutenants). CANLOAN Casualties: Killed in Action or died of wounds 128 (20%) Wounded 310 (50%) Prisoners of war 27 (5% ) Total Casualties 465 (75%)
Owen, Thanks for posting and providing the link. My brother in law's father was Capt. Richard B Coates who served with the 51st Highland Division. Cheers Randy
Owen, Thanks for posting and providing the link. My brother in law's father was Capt. Richard B Coates who served with the 51st Highland Division. Cheers Randy I thought I recognised that name (I'm spending way too much time on here ) He got a Military Cross. The National Archives | DocumentsOnline | Image Details Has the family seen the original citation?
CANLOAN HEADSTONES AT KASTERLEE, BELGIUM. Name: BROWNLEE-LAMONT, WILFRED WALLACE NIGEL Nationality: Canadian Rank: Lieutenant Regiment/Service: Royal Canadian Infantry Corps Secondary Regiment: Gordon Highlanders Secondary Unit Text: attd. Age: 30 Date of Death: 16/09/1944 Service No: CDN/605 Additional information: Son of Fred M. and Agnes E. Vanderlip, of Van Nuys, California, U.S.A. Grave/Memorial Reference: II.E.7. Cemetery: KASTERLEE WAR CEMETERY Name: COATES, KENNETH Nationality: Canadian Rank: Lieutenant Regiment/Service: Royal Canadian Infantry Corps Secondary Regiment: King's Own Scottish Borderers Secondary Unit Text: attd. Age: 29 Date of Death: 16/09/1944 Service No: CDN/233 Additional information: Son of William and Florence E. Coates; husband of Kathleen Enid Coates, of Guildford. Surrey. Grave/Memorial Reference: I.E.20. Cemetery: KASTERLEE WAR CEMETERY Name: STEWART, JACKSON Nationality: Canadian Rank: Lieutenant Regiment/Service: Royal Canadian Infantry Corps Secondary Regiment: Royal Scots Secondary Unit Text: attd. Age: 30 Date of Death: 15/09/1944 Service No: CDN/361 Additional information: Son of John and Mary Anne Stewart; husband of Marjorie Grace Stewart, of Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Grave/Memorial Reference: I.A.7. Cemetery: KASTERLEE WAR CEMETERY KASTERLEE WAR CEMETERY
Name: NIZNICK, HARRY Nationality: Canadian Rank: Lieutenant Regiment/Service: Royal Canadian Infantry Corps Secondary Regiment: Durham Light Infantry Secondary Unit Text: attd. 'C' Coy. 8th Bn. Date of Death: 09/09/1944 Service No: CDN/426 Grave/Memorial Reference: Brit. Plot, Grave 21. Cemetery: GEEL (STELEN) CHURCHYARD
