Campo Pg65,345d Transit Camp,campo 57 3200

Discussion in 'Prisoners of War' started by mcct, Aug 26, 2008.

  1. ADM199

    ADM199 Well-Known Member

    Brian, your knowledge is incredible. Markt Pongau (now St Johann im Pongau) was the location of Stalag 18C - is this the same camp? I visited the site of Stalag 18C in July this year, it is adjacent to the railway line in the industrial area across the river from the old town, and was in the area bordered by the Industriestrabe, Bahonhofstrabe and Gartensledlung (3 streets). There is a Garden Centre and industrial buildings on the site now - no references to the camp there. Regards, Colin R

    Colin I can find no Reference to 18C just 18A Wolfsburg(Karnten) and 18A/Z Spittal/Drau.
    It could be that 18C was a Camp earlier to my 1945 References. I'll look elswhere.

    Sounds like you had a very interesting trip.

    Brian
     
  2. ADM199

    ADM199 Well-Known Member

    Stalag XV111B and Stalag XVIIIC are listed in the National Archives Files, but no location is given in the File description.


    Brian
     
  3. Colin R

    Colin R Junior Member

    Stalag XV111B was located in Spittal en Der Drau, in what is now a residential area, straddling Lagerstrabbe, just off the main street, Villacher Strabbe. I was there in July - there is no reference there to the camp. My father arrived there from Italy in Sept. '43 and escaped from there with Jim Crawford , a signalman from the Queens Royal Cameroon Highlanders Brigade. They were captured 4 days later trying to jump a train. Dad was sent back to XV111B, while Crawford was sent to Colditz. My father was then sent to work camp 2048/L (from 25/4/43 to 14/3/45), adjacent to the railway station in Schladming. The prisoners there built kitset prison barracks to be sent by rail to prison camps in Italy, Austria and Germany. There were 60 prisoners housed in 3 barracks, there were 2 other barracks, 1 a kitchen, the other for the germans.At the end of the war they were converted to houses and demolished 5 years ago to make way for more houses and a garden centre. I learnt this from a local historian whom I met there in July. He was sent from Schladming to XV111A in Wolfsberg ( NOte Wolfsberg, Austria is spelt with an E, Wolfsburg in Germany is spelt with U. It was a great trip to a beautiful country. Regards,
    Colin R
     
  4. mcct

    mcct Junior Member

    Thanks Colin...great info...i hope to see these places sometime soon when I get all of my fathers details sorted
    Regards
     
  5. kayec

    kayec Junior Member

    My father Frank Leonard Hutchinson (Len) of Auckland NZ was in Campo 57 for approx 1 year from Nov 1942 until Dec 1943 before being sent to Poland to work in the coal mines and then shifted on to Stalag 8b, Gepruft. While he was in 57 he met Fred Such also from Auckland NZ and they became close friends until their deaths 40/50 years later. In 2004 my 2nd son visited Campo 57 for me and was treated like royality by the locals and sent back to me lots of info, photos and a memorial book given by the local villagers and now it is my turn to visit and I hope to be there in Sept of this year with my eldest son. I would like to share info with any other person interested in Campo 57. Kaye Clewett, Auckland NZ.
     
  6. mcct

    mcct Junior Member

    Kaye..i am also in Auckland and would very much like to hear more of your info these camps..Regards
    Charles
     
  7. Grahamb

    Grahamb Junior Member

    I was googling for current contact details for Susan Jacobs when I came across this interesting thread. My dad was also on the Jason. I have recently visited Methoni where the vessel was run aground. One of the things I was hoping to do was find the location of 'Dysentery Acre', the transit camp where survivors were held for a month, but I didn't have any luck. I will try to get hold of the book by Ogilvie and Newman to see if it helps. Many thanks. Best wishes
     
  8. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

  9. ADM199

    ADM199 Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the link Ron.

    The now discontinued New Zealand ex P.O.W. Journal "POW WOW" was a great source for Camp information.

    I am sure that Forum members in that part of the World who could find any copies would find them to be of great interest.
     
  10. mcct

    mcct Junior Member

    Thanks grahamb...my father often referred to "Dysentery acre"I will check his info and come back to you..I think it has the location...I can also get a contact address I thinks for Susan Jacobs as I want to meet up with her..she was here in Auckland....very Interesting info re the Jason...I have some photos of the ship if you are interested...there is a book on it "No Honour No Glory" written by a Kiwi Spence Edge (I will check that)do you have it??

    Thanks ADM199 and Ron...the NZ "POW Wow" mag has been a great source of info for me and I have saved as many old copies as I can
     
  11. ADM199

    ADM199 Well-Known Member

    I was googling for current contact details for Susan Jacobs when I came across this interesting thread. My dad was also on the Jason. I have recently visited Methoni where the vessel was run aground. One of the things I was hoping to do was find the location of 'Dysentery Acre', the transit camp where survivors were held for a month, but I didn't have any luck. I will try to get hold of the book by Ogilvie and Newman to see if it helps. Many thanks. Best wishes


    Hi Graham,
    I was led to believe that Dysentery Acre was just open ground with very temporary shelter for those who survived the Jason. Perhaps only an older Local would know the location.

    A local Greek Historian wrote to the Foreign Office in the early 1950s asking for more information about the Jason and the casualties. He had proposed the building of a Memorial at Methoni with Metal from the wreck.
    Did he manage to get one built.?

    Hope you find a copy of In the Bag, I believe the one I sent to Wellington was found on Abebooks.
     
  12. Grahamb

    Grahamb Junior Member

    Much appreciated Ron, ADM199, and mcct.
     
  13. ADM199

    ADM199 Well-Known Member

    Much appreciated Ron, ADM199, and mcct.


    Abebooks £12.75 + £3.63 Postage.

    Brian
     
  14. Grahamb

    Grahamb Junior Member

    No memorial, ADM199; still plenty of steel amongst the rocks; and the castle has suffered greatly from erosion by the sea. Stunning spot. Have a copy of In the Bag on its way from South Africa.
    Cheers
     
  15. chris daly

    chris daly Junior Member

    Hi Colin, visited Campo 57 site today and have some photos. Had to stay extra night to locate the place walked through a thunderstorm, but was determined to get results. The locals who have the recent history of the place were unfortunately away at a funeral, but I have their address and will follow up and keep you all informed. The chapel looks like it is in use. Took a few photos of surounds as well. Am still traveling, so will be able to post photos soon after I return to Sydney on the 11th July. Cheers Chris Daly
     
  16. ADM199

    ADM199 Well-Known Member

    Hi Colin, visited Campo 57 site today and have some photos. Had to stay extra night to locate the place walked through a thunderstorm, but was determined to get results. The locals who have the recent history of the place were unfortunately away at a funeral, but I have their address and will follow up and keep you all informed. The chapel looks like it is in use. Took a few photos of surounds as well. Am still traveling, so will be able to post photos soon after I return to Sydney on the 11th July. Cheers Chris Daly


    That was bad luck Chris,but at least you found it.

    Brian
     
  17. Colin R

    Colin R Junior Member

  18. Colin R

    Colin R Junior Member

    Thanks Chris. My wife and I visited the site last year and met the neighbours who let us into the church which was built by the prisoners and subsequently restored. Also visited Villagio di Roma site of the work camp 107 (about 2kms out of Torviscosa) where about 1000 POW's were kept -about 500 New Zealanders and 500 South Africans most of whom were transferred from P.G.57. Locals are keen for more info as they are hoping to do a documentary and book on the camp 107. Many prisoners escaped when Italy capitulated, however a lot were transferred by the Germans to Austria (including my father) and Germany. I am keen to learn mopre about this camp.Regards,
    Colin R
     
  19. Grahamb

    Grahamb Junior Member

    Thanks, Colin, I've just caught up with your message.
    Best, G
     
  20. My Hero 3714090

    My Hero 3714090 Junior Member

    Hi Can anyone help me I don't know how to post a thread computer iliterate! I want to find out about my Grandad his name was Owen Joseph Burke from Liverpool
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    I know little about him or how to start finding out and stumbled across this fantastic Forum.

    My Grandad I have learnt was in the 8th Kings Own Royal Regiment and I heard something, rightly or wrongly that he was a prisoner of war at Stalag 11-B that he was listed in another regiment prehaps Worcestershire? His number is 3714090 and his POW number was 140353?

    Could anybody advise me on where to start and find out more info on the regiment and him?

    I am currently applying for the SAR.

    Kindest Regards a Proud Grand Daughter

    Caroline Wilkins
     

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