British Vehicle Markings - a rough guide

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  1. Don Juan

    Don Juan Well-Known Member

    In case anyone is interested, I came across the instruction to add five pointed stars to British vehicles here.
  2. Andreas

    Andreas Working on two books

    Yeah! Now look for the one ordering the removal of the CRUSADER markings!

    All the best

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  3. Christian Fletcher

    Christian Fletcher Well-Known Member

    According to this memo, yellow is the preferred colour not white. Hunt is now on for yellow stars. Also, the star is to go on horizontal surfaces only?

    When did this change to all white and the addition of vertical surfaces? The Canadians kept good records, maybe the answer to those questions are to be found in the same files? Hopefully!
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  4. Aaron Simmons

    Aaron Simmons Member

    Hi all, sorry to restart an old thread but I have a question.

    We have just got a 25 PDR at our museum and I would like to mark it up as 74th Field regiment as a memory of my great grandfather, I have been looking through Frank Tomlinson's photo album from his time in the 74th and it looks like the gun had a Royal Artillery flash marking with 44 in it, would this be correct and why?
    I have read the complete thread but I think I am more confused than when I started.
  5. Gary Kennedy

    Gary Kennedy Member

    The May 1944 marking instructions gave the artillery units of an Infantry Division the following serial numbers, all featured on a square split as red over blue horizontal.

    Field Regiment - 42
    Field Regiment - 43
    Field Regiment - 44
    Anti-tank Regiment - 46
    LAA Regiment - 47
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  6. Christian Fletcher

    Christian Fletcher Well-Known Member

    The 74th were transferred to 49 (West Riding) Division on30/11/44 after 50 (Northumbrian) Division was broken up. They were the senior regiment in 50 Div - AoS 42. On transfer to 49 Div they replaced 185 Fd Regt, which was the junior regiment in that Division. There are several cases were replacement regiments took the AoS of the unit they were replacing, regardless of their seniority - which what must of happened to the 74th. The 74th were a Northumbrian TA Regt so you have 2 choices - celebrate his membership of his "own" Division and replace the 44 with a 42 - as of D-Day or keep the 44 and celebrate his service to the end of the war! Hope this makes sense!
  7. Aaron Simmons

    Aaron Simmons Member

    Thank you!
    Do you know what number they would of had during there time in North Africa?
  8. Christian Fletcher

    Christian Fletcher Well-Known Member

    I've tried to attach a word .doc attached witha short note on the 74th Field but the system rejected it.
    I used Joslen 'Orders of Battle', the regimental history by Brigadier Hogg 'The history of the 3rd Durham Volunteer Artillery...' and the venerable Hodges/Taylor 'British Military Markings'
    74th (Northumbrian) Field Regiment

    Under command 50 (Northumbrian) Division – 3/9/1939 to 29/11/1944

    Under command 49 (West Riding) Division – 1/12 1944 to 31/8/1945

    Joslen also states that the Regiment were under command 7th Armoured Division 13/9/42 to 18/9/1942 (but I’m pretty sure this was a temporary measure as the 7th were trying to gather themselves together after the withdrawal from Gazala)

    Busy war.

    1940 Ypres-Comines Canal – 26-28 May

    1940-41 In Palestine, Cyprus and Iraq

    1942 Gazala – 26 May 21 June (where 1 Battery was overrun and lost)

    Mersa Matruh 26 – 30 June

    Defence of the Alamein Line 1 – 27 July

    El Alamein 23 October – 4 November

    (The Regiment had 2 Batteries, a total of 16 25pdrs)

    1943 Mareth 16-23 March

    Akarit 6-7 April

    Enfidaville 19 29 April

    Landing in Sicily 9-12 July

    1944 Normandy Landing 6 June

    The Nederrijn 17-27 September

    Arm of Service numbers (as far as I can work out!

    1940 4 2nd senior regt in an infantry division

    1941 71 “ “

    1941 75 possible. If the regimental history is correct 151 Bde was formed as an Infantry Brigade Group with the 74th under command. Joslen only shows 150 Bde as being formed as a Bde Group. Usually I would take the regimental history as being right, in this case I can find no evidence either way!

    1942 71

    1944 43 2nd senior regt in an infantry division

    1944 44 actually still the second senior regiment and should be 43 but relaced the junior regiment – 185th. Probably assumed the 185th’s number and changed their AoS as well as the Divisional signs on their vehicles because it was the simplest thing to do at this late stage of the war.
  9. SquireBev

    SquireBev Well-Known Member

    Hello World

    Apologies for the protracted absence. Real Life has been A Lot for the last year or so, so I've not been able to do much work on the old markings guide.

    I have, however, launched a shop to run alongside it:
    Mainly mugs for now!

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  10. Bala

    Bala Member

    this chart shows GHQ Home Forces 2nd version Formation Sign - What can you tell me about the first version?
  11. SquireBev

    SquireBev Well-Known Member

    I was unaware of multiple versions, so let me have a dig around and see what I can turn up!
  12. Bala

    Bala Member


    See first version attached - 1940 to whenever the 2nd version took over

    Attached Files:

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