BEF Vehicle Arm of Service Markings (GHQ and others)

Discussion in '1940' started by Rich Payne, Oct 30, 2010.

  1. May1940

    May1940 Senior Member

    Guy FBAX bridging lorries and trailers unusually with all gear loaded and marked AOS 89 , Morris ? 8cwt with AOS 22, and a good view of the 'LOAD NOT TO EXCEED 15CWT' wording on a Morris. No division signs sadly .
    Craig

    I wish we had a high res version of these. The bridging unit must be 2 Bridge Company RASC as 1 Bridge Company had '82' as its unit serial.

    The FBE lorries are Albion BY3 (one identifier is the little towel rail in front of the steering wheel).

    Is the 8 cwt with '22' in Cassel?

    Andrew
     
  2. chrisgrove

    chrisgrove Senior Member

    Does anyone have any ideas about the gin palace to the right of 22?

    Chris
     
  3. May1940

    May1940 Senior Member

    Does anyone have any ideas about the gin palace to the right of 22?

    Chris

    The WD number indicates a Morris 15 cwt GS. The additional superstructure may have been added later. I wonder if the AoS number is under the W marking.

    Andrew
     
  4. idler

    idler GeneralList

    I wonder if the AoS number is under the W marking.

    I would say so: you can see the GHQ bar. The AoS and another sign have been roughly overpainted with WH for Wehrmacht Heer for identification. There's also aWH on the rear panel of the side-board. Wonder why they didn't use a cross?
     
  5. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    I would say so: you can see the GHQ bar. The AoS and another sign have been roughly overpainted with WH for Wehrmacht Heer for identification. There's also aWH on the rear panel of the side-board. Wonder why they didn't use a cross?

    I'd suggest that they didn't need a national marker as there were no enemy forces left in the vicinity by July 1940. The greatest risk would have been that their new-found beute was pinched by the Kriegsmarine or the Luftwaffe. :)
     
  6. idler

    idler GeneralList

    Good point!
     
  7. chrisgrove

    chrisgrove Senior Member

    Does anyone have any ideas about the gin palace to the right of 22?

    Chris

    Sorry, guys, my original question was not clear. In the middle picture of the three above is an 8cwt with AoS 22. To its right, in the same picture, is what looks like a 15cwt radio truck or something similar, facing to the right. Any IDs on that?

    Chris
     
  8. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    That's a difficult one, Chris. Something about the cab line makes me think Morris-Commercial but I'm not sure quite what.

    The pre-war style census number suggests that it's not a recent civilian impressed vehicle and I don't think that the letter above is an RASC 'V' for van so it must be a 'Z'.

    Is that an R.Sigs blue/white flash ? It's a nice illustration of BEF disruptive, whatever it is !
     
  9. May1940

    May1940 Senior Member

    That's a difficult one, Chris. Something about the cab line makes me think Morris-Commercial but I'm not sure quite what.

    The pre-war style census number suggests that it's not a recent civilian impressed vehicle and I don't think that the letter above is an RASC 'V' for van so it must be a 'Z'.

    Is that an R.Sigs blue/white flash ? It's a nice illustration of BEF disruptive, whatever it is !

    You are right. It is a Morris CS8 15 cwt Wireless (House Type) body and I am pretty sure it is Cassel. That is a signals flash and if you look under the netting you can also see the two windows in the side.

    Andrew
     
  10. JCB

    JCB Senior Member

    I wish we had a high res version of these. The bridging unit must be 2 Bridge Company RASC as 1 Bridge Company had '82' as its unit serial.

    The FBE lorries are Albion BY3 (one identifier is the little towel rail in front of the steering wheel).

    Is the 8 cwt with '22' in Cassel?

    Andrew

    I looked at this again the other day and thought it was an Albion radiator . These 6x4s look very similar. These are the first pics I've seen with all the gear and trailers. The bridging trucks seem quite plentiful on the beaches, but all unladen for obvious reasons. I only turned these up on net recently but can I hell find source again.:mad: I'll keep at it, must ref my pics .
    Craig
     
  11. LesCM19

    LesCM19 "...lets rock!"

    It looks like railway arches in the middle photograph
     

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  12. chrisgrove

    chrisgrove Senior Member

    Not as far to the right as the railway arches, Les!

    Chris
     
  13. chrisgrove

    chrisgrove Senior Member

    Thanks guys!

    Chris
     
  14. LesCM19

    LesCM19 "...lets rock!"

    Not as far to the right as the railway arches, Les!

    Chris

    But railway arches in Cassel? :unsure:
     
  15. JCB

    JCB Senior Member

    That did occur to me , isn't it perched on the top of a steep hill . :)
     
  16. LondonNik

    LondonNik Senior Member

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  17. morrisc8

    morrisc8 Under the Bed

    Germans in british kit with a PASS sign, looks home made and a PU in the background.
    Keith
     

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  18. BattlewagonsBruce

    BattlewagonsBruce Junior Member

    Can anyone shed any light on which Div marking 51st had on vehicles in France in 1940? I know the shoulder patch was the Stags head on purple and green, but was the red HD on light blue used on vehicles at that time?

    I was in St Valery for the 2010 anniversary and I am sure the 51st Div memorial had the HD device on it.

    thanks

    BB
     
  19. idler

    idler GeneralList

    There is a lovely shot of a truck with a stag's head on one of these BEF marking threads, but can't put a finger on it at the moment.

    The shoulder patch sounds interesting - was it on Service Dress, or an unofficial badge on Battle Dress?

    Now I can: BEF 1940 Vehicle Markings is the thread, this is the post.
     
  20. May1940

    May1940 Senior Member

    Can anyone shed any light on which Div marking 51st had on vehicles in France in 1940? I know the shoulder patch was the Stags head on purple and green, but was the red HD on light blue used on vehicles at that time?

    I was in St Valery for the 2010 anniversary and I am sure the 51st Div memorial had the HD device on it.

    thanks

    BB

    I can recommend a very good book on the subject ...

    ... but to save you on this occasion, the HD symbol came later. The Stag's Head was used on vehicles in 1940.

    Andrew
     

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