Are we anti-German on this forum?

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  1. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

     
  2. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    Myths and realities...
    US Troops Fire French Howitzer

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    Lance Cpl. Ryan LaVallee, radio operator, Charlie Company, Battalion Landing Team 1st Battalion, 9th Marine Regiment, 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit, fires an F-1 Towed Gun howitzer from 93rd Mountain <nobr style="color: rgb(43, 101, 176); font-weight: normal; font-size: 100%; font-family: Verdana;" id="itxt_nobr_0_0"></nobr>Artillery Regiment, French Army, during a bilateral training exercise in Djibouti March 23. Artillery Marines from BLT 1/9 received an opportunity to shoot several howitzers while training along with the French Army and further learn artillery call-for-fire procedures. The 24th MEU Marines performed a series of sustainment and joint exercises alongside the French and Djibouti armed service members while in Djibouti. The 24th MEU is currently on a seven month deployment aboard Nassau <nobr style="color: rgb(43, 101, 176); font-weight: normal; font-size: 100%; font-family: Verdana;" id="itxt_nobr_0_1"></nobr>Amphibious Ready Group vessels as the theater reserve force for Central Command. Photo by Sgt. Alex C. Sauceda
     
  3. Kieron Hill

    Kieron Hill Senior Member

    How longs this thread been running???? How many replies?????
    and how many hits???? Owen you have opened a can of worms
    thats for sure. I grew up in a generation where we sang "Hitler has
    only got one ball" and skipped around the playground hand in hand
    singing "Who wants to play war" only meters away from where
    my Granddad was killed by a German soldier. My gran the wife
    of my Granddad had German POW's come round for dinner after
    working in the local village, this was after her husband had been
    killed. My Nan was a strong women, she was well respected in
    our village and everyone new her, she was left to bring up their
    three children alone....was she Anti German???

    <O:p</O:p
    "Everything, everything in war is barbaric.... But the worst barbarity
    of war is that it forces men collectively to commit acts against which
    individually they would revolt with their whole being." — Ellen Key<O:p</O:p


    Am I Anti German and do I think this forum is Anti German
    no, Am I Anti Nazium yes and everyting it stood for yes.
     
  4. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Myths and realities...

    What do you mean by 'myths and realities' Za?
     
  5. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    French are this, French are that, but when it comes down to the nitty gritty military cooperation carries on undisturbed.
     
  6. Slipdigit

    Slipdigit Old Hickory Recon

    Ill be flat out honest i offered to bring a HIGHLY decorated american vet into the forum but after some of the snotty ass comments and additudes i basicly told him dont bother.... This site is entirely too british oreintated and I dunno i saw nothing in when i first checked this site it was By brits for Brits.. im sure ill catch hell for this OH WELL

    It is British oriented, but then that is it's purpose and reason for being. If you disagree with a comment, pull out your books and offer a well referenced rebuttal to the orginal opinion. Most here are reasonable people and can see well ordered logic over opinion.


    [​IMG]

    There's loads of general forums.
    There's a fair few specifically Axis related ones.
    Not that many that mostly focus on the British & commonwealth, and have a primarily British user base.
    Internet niches are a bit more interesting to me than generalism.

    The 'flavour' of this site is what it is, and I'm not sure it's worth reading more into it than that. It's a rather sweeping assumption to think that because people mostly talk about the Commonwealth nations here, they don't also have a wider appreciation of the other combatants.

    As for 'snottiness' (though I'd describe it as a certain dryness, or even cynicism).
    We are what we are ;).

    That's the truth!:lol:


    Now, to the subject at hand.

    Anti-German bias? By the leadership and leading forum membership - no. By some members? Well, that is pretty obviously a yes, although most don't seem to occupy a bully pulpit
     
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  7. Roel

    Roel Junior Member

    Isn't hate and mistrust the reason so many had to die?

    YouTube - Gettysburg: The "Killer Angels" Monologue

    There are many germans who committed warcrimes, yes... But take away hope for a generation (after world war I) and promise it back (Nazism), find a group to blame (jews) and there you go... perfect setup for war..

    Hating people will just make sure it will happen again... and again... and again...
     
  8. Capt Bill

    Capt Bill wanderin off at a tangent

    not wanting to hijack the thread - but does anyone know whats happened to
    afrikakorps.org

    it seems to have gone 'off air'
     
  9. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    In response to Ranger 6’s claims that I have inferred – or even implied my Anti American objections to his country – their leaders - their goods – services et al - I would make it known if it is not general knowledge - that I have on occasions made it quite clear in open forum my thoughts of certain of their leadersffice:eek:ffice" /><o>:p></o>:p>
    <o>:p></o>:p>
    Therefore let me state that I am NOT anti - American - German – Irish – Welsh – Italian – Chinese or anyone else… and as always this is not an inference – implication - it’s on paper and open ! <o>:p></o>:p>
    <o>:p></o>:p>
    So there we have it – this is after all promoted as a Commonwealth Forum and should be sufficient warning to all that the few WW2 Veterans – of which I am proud to admit – who are left will have their British experiences to draw upon but as I understand it – many have also read and even studied others’ experiences, strangely !<o>:p></o>:p>
    <o>:p></o>:p>
    I look forward therefore to enjoying a couple of hours next month with Sapper during my possibly last trip to the UK, and an enjoyable lunch with Gerry and Ron if he so cares, when we can spread as much Bovine Scatology as required without being sent to Coventry.<o>:p></o>:p>
    Cheers<o>:p></o>:p>
    Tom Canning<o>:p></o>:p>
    Ex 21<sup>st</sup> Tank Brigade –145<sup>th</sup> RAC.<o>:p></o>:p>
    EX 26th Armoured Brigade -16/5<sup>th</sup> Lancers.
     
  10. Gerard

    Gerard Seelow/Prora

    In response to Ranger 6’s claims that I have inferred – or even implied my Anti American objections to his country – their leaders - their goods – services et al - I would make it known if it is not general knowledge - that I have on occasions made it quite clear in open forum my thoughts of certain of their leadersffice:eek:ffice" /><o>:p></o>:p>
    <o>:p></o>:p>
    Therefore let me state that I am NOT anti - American - German – Irish – Welsh – Italian – Chinese or anyone else…it’s on paper and open ! <o>:p></o>:p>
    <o>:p></o>:p>
    So there we have it – this is after all promoted as a Commonwealth Forum and should be sufficient warning to all that the few WW2 Veterans – of which I am proud to admit – who are left will have their British experiences to draw upon but as I understand it – many have also read and even studied others’ experiences, strangely !<o>:p></o>:p>
    <o>:p></o>:p>
    I look forward therefore to enjoying a couple of hours next month with Sapper during my possibly last trip to the UK, and an enjoyable lunch with Gerry and Ron if he so cares, when we can spread as much Bovine Scatology as required without being sent to Coventry.<o>:p></o>:p>
    Cheers<o>:p></o>:p>
    Tom Canning<o>:p></o>:p>
    Ex 21<sup>st</sup> Tank Brigade –145<sup>th</sup> RAC.<o>:p></o>:p>
    EX 26th Armoured Brigade -16/5<sup>th</sup> Lancers.
    Tom, would you like to amend your gross generalisation about one particular religious group? :) I dont care how humourous you may find it, its not very nice.
     
  11. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Gotthard-
    The reference to the problem I have with that particular religious group is their constant throwing and exploding of bombs and killing innocent people all over the world -"as I said when they stop throwing bombs etc " I am most certainly anti that sort of behaviour - by anyone and I don't really care about his religion - nationality - or football team he supports - I see no humour in killing anyone for a religion or ideology - ergo I am anti -

    and while I am by no means a computer expert -

    who added the raspberries to my posting ??? -

    THAT is not humourous either ! and I would ask you as a moderator to remove them forthwith - as that is not very nice either !!!

    see my original "cut and paste" posting with the addition of the two "Office" with added>>>> marks ONLY which I failed to "edit"

    Less than cheerful
    Tom Canning
     
  12. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Gotthard -
    it appears that even my original posting has been interfered with as - I NEVER use any smiley's - my original posting was a 'cut and paste' from Word and showed the addition of two "office" one with a purple smiley and a few >>> marks on some lines which I failed to edit - and your quote below my original showed all the raspberry smileys - BUT my original posting did not...so someone has been busy stirring things up......probably very difficult to track down but I can assure you that I do NOT add any smileys to my postings.

    Cheers
     
  13. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    I think it's about time this was wrapped up now don't you?
    I think we've had the whole spectrum of replies there is to have.
    We seem to be going off on many different tangents.
    All very entertaining it has been but I feel if some totally off-topic points are continued there are going to be rather alot of members falling out with eachother.

    As for the 'German question'.
    I hope you all flag up neo-nazi sentiments that you may see in the future to the Mods/Admin, thank you for that.
    But if we have members who try to discuss German matters sensibly & honestly especially if they are about family members or researched into fallen German sevicemen then those queries will be treated with the same respect as if it was a thread about Allied servicemen.
    After all they were all someones son.

    That's about it I suppose.
     
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  14. L J

    L J Senior Member

    Maybe,as a double outsider (born after the war and not beying British ),I could post something ?
    Caution :My English beying only slight above the level of "My tailor is rich ",probably I will hurt a lot of feelings ,but it is unintentionally .
    Of-course,there are a lot of anti-German feelings on this forum:this is only natural .
    1)The Vererans fought against an evil empire,and they can be proud of it .
    2)They suffered,lost friends,relatives,saw a lot of atrocities (someone who saw Bergen Belsen,will never forget it ).
    3)It is impossible to ask them to forget or forgive .
    4)Time is not healing wounds:the wounds are bleeding again .
    An other point :Passendale,Ypres,Tyne Cot are still living memories in Britain and will for ever belong to British history .The Cenotaph and Remembrance Sunday are typical British .
    On the continent :I have the impression that the two World Wars have become something of the past ,and that reconciliation is more easily accepted .In France,on 14 july,German troops are marching on the Champs-Elysées :I don't see it happen in B ritain,but I can imagine the reaction of the Sun,if it happened:D .In Russia,some years ago,a German military band was playing Preussens Gloria on the Red Square :I don't see it happen in Britain,but I can imagine the reaction of the Sun ,if it happened :D.In Belgium (off-course an extreme example :lol:),for most people,11 november is only a holiday .
    Why these differences ?
    Maybe (but this is only a generalisation )the Anglo-Saxons have a more moralistic approach to war :war is something evil,and has to be fought for a moral cause :to end all wars,to save the world for democracy ,while on the continent,the approach is more realistic,cynical,fatalistic (you can choose what you want ):war is something inherent on mankind,it will never disappear,it is a natural disaster (the continent has been a battlefield for more than thousand years )and there is less leaning to commorate war .
     
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  15. Kurt.heckermann9486

    Kurt.heckermann9486 Junior Member

    hello Tom was wondering if you get a chance could you send me any info on camp 132 medicine hat,canada,as my father was a pow there 02/10/44 to sometime in 46 regards rick
     
  16. CROONAERT

    CROONAERT Ipsissimus

    Maybe (but this is only a generalisation )the Anglo-Saxons have a more moralistic approach to war :war is something evil,and has to be fought for a moral cause .

    I don't think I can agree with that one... us Anglo-Saxons have quite a history of 'war for war's sake'. The moralistic bit is pretty much modern (ie. within the past 100 years or so) thinking. Looking back over the centuries, it could sometimes seem that Brits go to war on occasion simply because they enjoy it!:lol:

    dave
     
  17. Kurt.heckermann9486

    Kurt.heckermann9486 Junior Member

    Hi Tom would just like to send you my email xxx


    EDIT by Owen: Please don't put email addresses on the open forum.
    Use the Private Message facility to give them to other members
     
  18. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    In Russia,some years ago,a German military band was playing Preussens Gloria on the Red Square :I don't see it happen in Britain,but I can imagine the reaction of the Sun ,if it happened :D...

    The Bundeswehr playing Preussens Gloria in the Red Square! Adolf would be chewing a carpet if he saw this!

    [YOUTUBE][/YOUTUBE]

    Oh, and THAT's the proper way to wear a beret, not the other Cow Pat Impersonation. :D
     
  19. Ranger6

    Ranger6 Liar

    OK ill admit it Im against the DAMMED Nubians and Those slimy Spartans, oh and I HATE the Celts,
     
  20. wtid45

    wtid45 Very Senior Member

    OK ill admit it Im against the DAMMED Nubians and Those slimy Spartans, oh and I HATE the Celts,
    "I hate the Celts" steady................:D its Welsh till I die for a reason;)
     
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