Anti Aircraft Unit North Wales Nov 1941

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  1. mikereme

    mikereme Member

    Hello Everyone,
    Am researching a German bomber Ju 88 that was brought down by AA fire over Wrexham area (North Wales) in Nov 1941.
    The Information I have is;
    1. Belived Location of AA unit - Kinnerton Wrexham.
    2. J88 crashed Brookside Farm English/Welsh border.
    What AA unit was stationed at Kinnerton the took out this bomber?

    I know it a long shot but any ino and direction you may have would greatly appreciated....
     
  2. Temujin

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  5. Temujin

    Temujin Member

    Sorry, I don’t know England and all its districts that well, so I’ll just post this and hopefully you can sort out and AA candidate units. Source is at the bottom. I “think” the 4th Anti Aircraft Division is the area and unit’s that may be responsible for the area you are looking at??

    Anti-Aircraft Command, TA on 3 September 1939


    HQ AA Command: Bentley Priory, Stanmore, Middlesex
    (Brigade Sub-Titles dropped in September 1939)

    1st Anti-Aircraft Division: HQ Hillington House, Uxbridge (Raised 15 December 1935) - London District
    26th (London) Anti-Aircraft Brigade: Brompton Road SW3 - London District
    (Raised 16 December 1935 in Chelsea)
    53rd (City of London) Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - London District
    HQ, 157th, 159th (Lloyd's), 158th (City of London) Btys: War Office Dept, White City Road W 12
    86th (Honourable Artillery Company) Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - London District
    HQ, 273rd-275th Btys: Armoury House, Finsbury E.C. 1
    88th Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - London District
    HQ, 281st-283rd Btys: White City
    38th Light Anti-Aircraft Brigade: Duke of York's Headquarters, Chelsea - London District
    (Raised 28 September 1938 at Chelsea)
    26th (London Electrical Engineers) Anti-Aircraft Battalion, R.E. (T.A.) - London District
    HQ, 303rd, 321st, 339th Coys: Duke of York's Headquarters, Chelsea, S.W. 3
    301st Coy: Shepards Bush W. 12
    27th (London Electrical Engineers) Anti-Aircraft Battalion, R.E. (T.A.) - London District
    HQ: Mitcham Lane
    304th-306th, 390th Coys: Rochester Row, S.W. 1
    75th Searchlight Regiment, R.A. (Middlesex)(T.A.) - East Anglia Area, Eastern Command
    HQ and 3 Btys: Cowley
    48th Anti-Aircraft Brigade: Lewisham SE3 - London District
    (Raised 28 August 1939 at Lee Green - Later at Lewisham)
    54th (City of London) Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - London District
    HQ, 160th-162nd (City of London), 312th Btys: Putney S.W. 15
    60th (City of London) Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - London District
    HQ, 168th, 169th, 194th Btys: Catford S.E. 6
    97th Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - London District
    HQ, 298th, 299th Btys: Westminster, London
    99th Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - London District
    HQ, 302nd, 303rd Btys: London W. 8
    49th Anti-Aircraft Brigade: Lower Belgrave Street SW1 - London District
    (Raised 28 August 1939 at London SW1)
    51st (London) Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - London District
    HQ, 151st-153rd (London) Btys: Duke of York's HQ, Chelsea, S.W. 3
    52nd (London) Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - London District
    HQ, 154th, 155th (London) Btys: Acton N.W. 3
    271st (Brentford), 313th Btys: Brentford
    84th (Middlesex, London Transport) Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - East Anglia Area, East. Cmd.
    HQ, 260th-261st (London Transport) Btys: Willesdon, N.W. 10
    262nd-263rd Btys: Arnos Grove N. 11

    2nd Anti-Aircraft Division: HQ RAF Station, Hucknall, Nottinghamshire (Raised 1 September 1936) - Northern Command
    32nd (Midland) Anti-Aircraft Brigade: Normanton House, Derby - West Riding Area, Northern Command
    (Raised 1 November 1936 at Derby)
    42nd (The Robin Hood's, Sherwood Foresters) Anti-Aircraft Battalion, R.E. (T.A.) - West Riding Area, Northern Command
    HQ: Nottingham
    366th Coy: Carlton
    367th Coy: Beeston
    368th Coy: Bulwell
    369th Coy: Sutton-in-Coldfield
    44th (The Leicestershire Regiment) Anti-Aircraft Battalion, R.E. (T.A.) - West Riding Area, Northern Command
    HQ, 374th-377th Coys: Leicester
    50th (The Northamptonshire Regiment) Anti-Aircraft Battalion, R.E. (T.A.) - South Midland Area, Southern Command
    HQ, 400th-401st Coys: Northampton
    402nd Coy: Peterborough
    403rd Coy: Kettering
    68th (North Midland) Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - West Riding Area, Northern Command
    HQ, 200th, 222nd (Derby) Btys: Derby
    276th, 277th Btys: Nottingham
    40th Anti-Aircraft Brigade: Duxford, Cambridge - East Anglia Area, Eastern Command
    (Raised 29 September 1938 at South Ealing)
    33rd (St. Pancras) Anti-Aircraft Battalion, R.E. (T.A.) - London District
    HQ, 332nd, 333rd Coys: Albany St., London N.W. 1
    334th Coy: Barnet
    36th (Middlesex) Anti-Aircraft Battalion, R.E. (T.A.) - East Anglia Area, Eastern Command
    HQ, 317th, 345th Coys: Edgware
    346th Coy: Southall
    424th Coy:
    58th (Middlesex) Anti-Aircraft Battalion, R.E. (T.A.) - East Anglia Area, Eastern Command
    HQ, 344th, 426th Coys: Harrow
    425th Coy: Roxeth, South Harrow
    9th Battalion, The Middlesex Regiment (Duke of Cambridge's Own)(60th Searchlight Regiment)(T.A.) - East Anglia Area, Eastern Command
    HQ, 429th-431st Coys: Willesdon N.W. 10
    10th (3rd City of London) Battalion, The Royal Fusiliers (69th Searchlight Regiment)(T.A.) - London District
    HQ, 456th-458th Coys: Harrow Road, London W. 2
    41st (London) Anti-Aircraft Brigade: Elbury Street, London, SW1 - London District
    (Raised 29 September 1938 at London SW1)
    32nd (7th City of London) Anti-Aircraft Battalion, R.E. (T.A.) - London District
    HQ, 328th Coy: Finsbury Square, E.C. 2
    329th, 330th Coys: Grove Park S.E. 12
    1st/6th Battalion, The Essex Regiment (64th Searchlight Regiment)(T.A.) - East Anglia Area, Eastern Command
    HQ, 441st-442nd Coys: The Cedars, West Ham E. 15
    443rd Coy: Chingford
    2nd/6th Battalion, The Essex Regiment (65th Searchlight Regiment)(T.A.) - Chatham Area, Eastern Command
    HQ, 444th Coy: Prittlewell, Southend-on-Sea
    445th Coy: East Ham
    446th Coy: Grays
    78th (1st East Anglian) Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - East Anglia Area, Eastern Command
    HQ, 243rd (2nd Norfolk), 244th (3rd Norfolk) Btys: Norwich
    245th (1st Norfolk) Bty: Greater Yarmouth
    409th (Suffolk) Bty: Lowestoft
    50th Light Anti-Aircraft Brigade: Nottingham - West Riding Area, Northern Command
    (Raised 24 August 1939 at Hucknall, Nottinghamshire)
    26th Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - West Riding Area, Northern Command
    HQ, 114th-116th Btys: Derby (Mobile Reserve)

    3rd Anti-Aircraft Division: HQ Edinburgh (Raised 1 September 1938) - Scottish Command
    36th (Scottish) Anti-Aircraft Brigade: Edinburgh - Lowland Area, Scottish Command
    (Raised 1 May 1938 at Edinburgh)
    71st (Forth) Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - Highland Area, Scottish Command
    HQ, 227th, 229th (Fife) Btys: Dunfermline
    94th Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - Highland Area, Scottish Command
    HQ, 291st Bty: Turnhouse, Edinburgh
    228th (Edinburgh) Bty: Edinburgh
    292nd Bty: Musselburgh
    101st Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - Highland Area, Scottish Command
    HQ, 297th Bty: Inverness
    226th Bty: Kirkwall
    42nd Anti-Aircraft Brigade: Glasgow - Lowland Area Scottish Command
    (Raised 1 October 1938 at Glasgow)
    74th (City of Glasgow) Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - Highland Area, Scottish Command
    HQ, 230th-232nd Btys: Glasgow
    83rd (Blythswood) Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - Highland Area, Scottish Command
    HQ, 257th-259th Btys: Bridgeton, Glasgow S.E.
    100th Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - Highland Area, Scottish Command
    HQ, 304th, 305th Btys: Motherwell, Lanarkshire
    51st Light Anti-Aircraft Brigade: Edinburgh - Lowland Area, Scottish Command
    (Raised 25 August 1939 at Edinburgh)
    14th (West Lothian Royal Scots) Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - Highland Area, Scottish Command
    HQ, 39th (Linlithgow), 40th (Bathgate), 58th Btys: Edinburgh
    57th Bty: South Queensferry
    18th Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - Highland Area, Scottish Command
    HQ, 54th, 99th, 139th Btys: Glasgow
    56th Bty: Ardeer
    19th Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - Highland Area, Scottish Command
    HQ, 59th Bty: Edinburgh
    60th Bty: Falkirk
    31st Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - Highland Area, Scottish Command
    HQ: Perth
    61st Bty: Grangemouth
    101st Bty (271st Tp: Leuchars; 272nd Tp: Donibristle)
    32nd Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - Highland Area, Scottish Command
    HQ, 98th Bty: Falkirk
    55th Bty: Rosyth
    103rd Bty (277th, 278th Tps: Bishopton R.O.F.; 279th, 280th Tps: Kilmarnock)
    52nd Light Anti-Aircraft Brigade: Stirling - Highland Area, Scottish Command
    (Raised 26 September 1939 at Acton)
    51st (Highland) Anti-Aircraft Battalion, R.E. (T.A.) - Highland Area, Scottish Command
    HQ, 320th (City of Dundee) Coy: Dundee
    319th (City of Aberdeen) Coy: Aberdeen
    404th Coy: Cowdenbeath
    4th/5th (Queen's Edinburgh) Battalion, The Royal Scots (The Royal Regiment)(52nd Searchlight Regiment (T.A.) - Lowland Area, Scottish Command
    HQ, 405th-407th Coys: Edinburgh 1
    56th Searchlight Regiment, R.A. (Cameronians)(T.A.) - Highland Area, Scottish Command
    HQ, 417th-419th Btys: Glasgow
    57th (Glasgow) Searchlight Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - Highland Area, Scottish Command
    HQ, 420th-423rd Btys: South Glasgow
    3rd Anti-Aircraft Brigade, Supplementary Reserve: Belfast, Northern Ireland District - Attached
    (Raised 7 December 1938 at Belfast)
    3rd (Ulster) Searchlight Regiment, R.A. (S.R.)
    HQ, 10th, 11th Btys: Belfast
    9th Bty: Clonaver, Strandtown
    12th Bty: Lurgan
    8th (Belfast) Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (S.R.)
    HQ, 21st-23rd AA Btys: Belfast
    5th Light AA Bty: Newtownards
    9th (Londonderry) Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (S.R.)
    HQ, 24th-25th AA Btys: Londonderry
    26th AA Bty: Ballymena
    6th Light AA Bty: Coleraine
    102nd Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - Northern Ireland District
    HQ, 314th, 315th, 316th Btys: Antrim
    175th, 176th Light AA Btys: Antrim (added 10 September 1939)

    4th Anti-Aircraft Division: HQ Chester (Raised 1 September 1938) - Western Command
    33rd (Western) Anti-Aircraft Brigade: Woolton, Liverpool - West Lancashire Area, Western Command
    (Raised 1 November 1936 at Liverpool)
    70th (3rd West Lancashire) Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - West Lancashire Area, Western Command
    HQ, 211th (13th West Lancashire), 212th (27th West Lancashire), 216th (14th West Lancashire)
    Btys: Igburth, Liverpool
    309th Bty: Bootle, Liverpool
    81st Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - West Lancashire Area, Western Command
    HQ, 253rd, 254th (Cheshire) Btys: Stockport
    255th (Cheshire) Bty: Stalybridge
    (Was to have been formed by The Loyals with RHQ and 287th Bty at Pontefract and
    270th Bty at Rotherham (ex 68th AA Brigade)
    93rd Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - West Lancashire Area, Western Command
    HQ, 288th, 289th Btys: Oxton, Birkenhead
    267th (Wirral) Bty: West Birkenhead
    290th Bty: Chester
    38th (The King's Regiment) Anti-Aircraft Battalion, R.E. (T.A.) - West Lancashire Area, Western Command
    HQ, 350th-353rd Coys: Liverpool
    62nd (The Loyal) Searchlight Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - West Lancashire Area, Western Command
    HQ, 435th-437th Btys: Preston
    34th (South Midland) Anti-Aircraft Brigade: Coventry - South Midland Area, Southern Command
    (Raised 1 April 1938 at Coventry)
    69th (The Royal Warwickshire Regiment) Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - South Midland Area, Southern Command
    HQ, 190th-191st Btys: Edgbaston, Birmingham 15
    192nd, 199th Btys: King's Norton Birmingham
    73rd Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - West Lancashire Area, Western Command
    HQ, 209th (Wolverhampton) Bty: Wolverhampton
    210th (West Bromwich) Bty: West Bromwich
    311th Bty: Brierley Hall
    95th Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - South Midland Area, Southern Command
    HQ, 293rd Bty: Washwood Heath, nr. Birmingham
    204th (Warwickshire) Bty: Saltley, Birmingham
    44th Anti-Aircraft Brigade: Manchester - East Lancashire Area, Western Command
    (Raised 29 September 1938 at Manchester)
    65th (The Manchester Regiment) Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - East Lancashire Area, Western Command
    HQ, 181st-183rd, 196th Btys: Hulme, Manchester 15
    39th (The Lancashire Fusiliers) Anti-Aircraft Battalion, R.E. (T.A.) - East Lancashire Area, Western Command
    HQ, 354th-357th Coys: Salford
    71st (East Lancashire) Searchlight Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - East Lancashire Area, Western Command
    HQ, 462nd-464th Btys: Manchester
    53rd Light Anti-Aircraft Brigade: Chester - West Lancashire Area, Western Command
    (Raised 24 August 1939 at Chester)
    15th (Isle of Man) Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - West Lancashire Area, Western Command
    HQ, 41st, 42nd Btys: Douglas, Isle of Man
    129th Bty:
    21st Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - West Lancashire Area, Western Command
    HQ: Liverpool
    67th Bty: Bromborough
    68th Bty: Ellesmore Port
    69th Bty: Northwich
    80th Bty: Kearsley, Manchester
    136th Bty (393rd Tp: Tern Hill; 394th Tp: Shawbury; 395th-396th Tps: Crew Jct.)
    25th Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - West Lancashire Area, Western Command
    HQ, 225th (27th West Lancashire), 81st, 82nd Btys: Liverpool
    33rd Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - West Lancashire Area, Western Command
    HQ: Liverpool
    132nd Bty: (377th, 378th Tps: Lostock; 379th Tp: Prescot; 380th Tp: Speke)
    54th Anti-Aircraft Brigade: South Birmingham - South Midland Area, Southern Command
    (Raised 1 September 1939 at Sutton Coldfield. Later at Chester)
    41st (5th North Staffordshire Regiment) Anti-Aircraft Battalion, R.E. (T.A.) - West Lancashire Area, Western Command
    HQ, 362nd-365th Coys: Stoke-on-Trent
    45th (The Royal Warwickshire Regiment) Anti-Aircraft Battalion, R.E. (T.A.) - South Midland Area, Southern Command
    HQ, 378th-381st Coys: Birmingham 5
    59th (Warwickshire) Searchlight Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - South Midland Area, Southern Command
    HQ, 399th, 427th, 428th Btys: Birmingham
    61st (South Lancashire Regiment) Searchlight Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - West Lancashire Area, Western Command
    HQ, 432nd-434th Btys: St. Helen

    5th Anti-Aircraft Division: HQ Reading (Raised 1 September 1938) - Eastern Command
    35th Anti-Aircraft Brigade: Fareham, Hampshire - Southern Area, Southern Command
    (Raised 1 April 1938 at Fareham)
    56th (Cornwall) Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - South-Western Area, Southern Command
    HQ: Falmouth
    165th (Cornwall) Bty: Redruth
    201st (Cornwall) Bty: Padstow
    202nd (Cornwall) Bty: Par
    203rd (Cornwall) Bty: Penzance
    57th (Wessex) Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - Southern Area, Southern Command
    HQ, 213th (Portsmouth) Bty: Portsmouth
    214th (Southsea) Bty: Southsea
    215th (Gosport and Fareham) Bty: Gosport
    219th (Isle of Wight and Cosham) Bty: Newport, Isle of Wight
    72nd (Hampshire) Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - Southern Area, Southern Command
    HQ, 218th (Hampshire Royal Horse Artillery) Bty: Southampton
    217th (Hampshire Carabineers) Bty: Winchester
    310th Bty: Parkstone, Dorset
    48th (Hampshire) Anti-Aircraft Battalion, R.E. (T.A.) - South-Western Area, Southern Command
    HQ, 391st Coy: Portsmouth
    392nd Coy: East Cowes
    393rd Coy: Gosport
    394th Coy: Southampton
    45th Anti-Aircraft Brigade: Cardiff - Welsh Area, Western Command
    (Raised 29 September 1938 at Newport, Monmouthshire - Later Cardiff)
    77th (Welsh) Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - Welsh Area, Western Command
    HQ, 239th, 240th (Glamorgan) Btys: Cardiff
    241st, 242nd (Glamorgan) Btys: Rhondda
    6th (Glamorgan) Battalion, The Welch Regiment (67th Searchlight Regiment)(T.A.) - Welsh Area, Western Command
    HQ, 450th-452nd Coys: Cardiff
    1st (Rifle) Battalion, The Monmouthshire Regiment (68th Searchlight Regiment)(T.A.) - Welsh Area, Western Command
    HQ, 453rd-455th Coys: Newport, Monmouthshire
    46th Anti-Aircraft Brigade: Bristol - South Midland Area, Southern Command
    (Raised 27 September 1938 at Bristol)
    76th (Gloucestershire) Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - South Midland Area, Southern Command
    HQ, 236th-238th (Bristol) Btys: Clifton, Bristol
    98th Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - South Midland Area, Southern Command
    HQ, 300th Bty: Cheltenham
    301st Bty: Moreton-in-the-Marsh
    4th (City of Bristol) Battalion, The Gloucestershire Regiment (66th Searchlight Regiment)(T.A.) - South Midland Area, Southern Command
    HQ, 447th-449th Coys: Bristol
    47th Anti-Aircraft Brigade: Grosvenor Gardens, SW1 - London District
    (Raised 29 September 1938 at Kenley, Whyteleafe, Surrey)
    80th (Berkshire) Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - South Midland Area, Southern Command
    HQ, 249th (Berkshire Royal Horse Artillery), 250th (Reading) Btys: Reading
    251st (Buckinghamshire) Bty: Slough
    252nd (City of Oxford) Bty: Oxford
    30th (Surrey) Anti-Aircraft Battalion, R.E. (T.A.) - Home Counties Area, Eastern Command
    HQ, 316th, 323rd (Surrey) Coys: Kingston
    315th (Surrey) Coy: Croyden
    318th (Surrey) Coy: Guildford
    35th (First Surrey Rifles) Anti-Aircraft Battalion, R.E. (T.A.) - Home Counties Area, Eastern Command
    HQ, 340th-343rd Coys: Camberwell S.E. 5
    4th Battalion, The Queen's Royal Regiment (West Surrey)(63rd Searchlight Regiment)(T.A.) - Home Counties Area, Eastern Command
    HQ, 438th-440th Coys: Croyden
    72nd (Middlesex) Searchlight Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - East Anglia Area, Eastern Command
    HQ, 465th-467th Btys: Twickenham
    55th Light Anti-Aircraft Brigade: Plymouth - South-Western Area, Southern Command
    (Raised September 1939 at Exeter. Later at Plymouth)
    23rd Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - South Midland Area, Southern Command
    HQ, 73rd, 74th Btys: Bristol
    75th Bty: Poole
    130th Bty: Corsham
    24th Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - South-Western Area, Southern Command
    HQ, 78th, 86th, 87th, 88th Btys: Southampton
    76th Bty: Fawley
    77th Bty: Channel Islands
    34th Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - Welsh Area, Western Command
    HQ: Swansea
    92nd Bty (245th Tp: St. Athan A.S.U.; 246th, 247th Tps: Bridgend R.O.F.; 248th Tp: Llandow A.S.U.)
    35th Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - South Midland Area, Southern Command
    HQ: Oxford
    144th Bty (From 23.9.39): Brize Norton, Abington, Benson
    36th Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - South Midland Area, Southern Command
    HQ: Chertsey
    79th Bty (124th Tp: Slough; 125th-127th Tps: Walton)
    145th Bty (Joined soon): Luton, Hatfield, Radlett

    6th Anti-Aircraft Division: HQ Uxbridge - London District
    27th Anti-Aircraft Brigade: Lingfield - Home Counties Area, Eastern Command
    (Raised 15 December 1935 at Kenley, Whyteleafe, Surrey)
    31st (City of London Rifles) Anti-Aircraft Battalion, R.E. (T.A.) - Home Counties Area, Eastern Command
    HQ, 324th, 325th Coys: Sutton, Surrey
    326th Coy: Merton S.W. 19
    327th Coy: Hackbridge, Carshalton
    34th (The Queen's Own Royal West Kent) Anti-Aircraft Battalion, R.E. (T.A.) - London District
    HQ, 336th, 337th Coys: Blackheath S.E. 10
    302nd Coy: Greenwich S.E. 10
    338th Coy: Eltham S.E. 9
    70th (Sussex) Searchlight Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - Home Counties Area, Eastern Command
    HQ, 459th-461st Btys: Brighton
    28th (Thames and Medway) Anti-Aircraft Brigade: Kitchener Barracks, Chatham - Chatham Area, Eastern Command
    (Raised 15 December 1935 at Chatham)
    55th (Kent) Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - Chatham Area, Eastern Command
    HQ, 166th (City of Rochester), 308th Btys: Rochester
    163rd (Kent) Bty: Chatham
    307th Bty: Tunbridge Wells
    58th (Kent) Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - Chatham Area, Eastern Command
    HQ, 206th, 207th (Erith) Btys: Erith
    208th (Bromley) Bty: Penge
    264th (Dartford) Bty: Dartford
    75th (Home Counties)(Cinque Ports) Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - Home Counties Area, Eastern Command
    HQ, 233rd (Kent) Bty: Dover
    223rd (Cinque Ports) Bty: Folkstone
    306th Bty: Ashford, Kent
    89th Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - Home Counties Area, Eastern Command
    HQ, 205th (Kent) Bty: Sittingbourne
    234th (Kent) Bty: Deal
    235th (Kent) Bty: Margate
    29th (East Anglian) Anti-Aircraft Brigade: South Kensington - London District
    (Raised 8 January 1936 at Chelsea)
    28th (Essex) Anti-Aircraft Battalion, R.E. (T.A.) - East Anglia Area, Eastern Command
    HQ, 311th (Essex) Coy: Brentwood
    309th (Essex) Coy: Harlow
    312th (Essex) Coy: Upminster
    29th (Kent) Anti-Aircraft Battalion, R.E. (T.A.) - Chatham Area, Eastern Command
    HQ, 313th (Kent) Coy: Chatham
    314th (Kent) Coy: Tonbridge
    468th Coy: Dover
    73rd (Kent Fortress) Anti-Aircraft Battalion, R.E. (T.A.) - Home Counties Area, Eastern Command
    HQ, 331st Coy: Bexleyheath
    322nd Coy: Horns Cross, Greenhithe
    347th (Kent) Coy: Sidcup
    74th (Essex Fortress) Anti-Aircraft Battalion, R.E. (T.A.) - East Anglia Area, Eastern Command
    HQ, 335th Coy: Tottenham
    310th (Essex) Coy: Epping
    469th Coy: Chelmsford
    37th Anti-Aircraft Brigade: Hendon NW9 - London District
    (Raised 1 May 1938 at Edmonton)
    59th (The Essex Regiment) Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - East Anglia Area, Eastern Command
    HQ, 164th, 167th Btys: Walthamstow
    265th Bty: Whipp's Cross
    61st (Middlesex) Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - London District
    HQ, 171st Bty: Pentonville N 1
    170th, 195th Btys: Finchley N.W. 11
    79th (Hertfordshire Yeomany) Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - East Anglia Area, Eastern Command
    HQ, 246th (1st Watford), 247th (2nd Watford) Btys: Watford
    248th (Welwyn) Bty: Welwyn Gdn C.
    82nd (Essex) Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - Chatham Area, Eastern Command
    HQ, 156th, 256th (Barking) Btys: Barking
    193rd Bty: Leight-on-Sea
    90th Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - East Anglia Area, Eastern Command
    HQ, 272nd, 284th, 285th Btys: Southgate
    56th Light Anti-Aircraft Brigade: Uxbridge - London District
    (Raised 30 September 1939 at Chelmsford and Rochester)
    11th (City of London Yeomanry) Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - London District
    HQ, 31st-33rd, 43rd Btys: Bunhill Road, London E.C. 1
    12th (Finsbury Rifles) Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - London District
    HQ, 34th-36th, 44th Btys: Pentonville N. 1
    16th Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - Home Counties Area, Eastern Command
    HQ, 46th Bty: Sittingbourne
    45th Bty: Tovil, Maidstone
    47th Bty: Crayford
    83rd Bty: Sevenoaks
    17th Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - London District
    HQ, 48th Bty: Chelsea
    49th Bty: Purfleet
    50th Bty: Shellhaven

    7th Anti-Aircraft Division: HQ Newcastle-on-Tyne - Northern Command
    30th (Northumbrian) Anti-Aircraft Brigade: Humbledown View, Tunstall Road, Sunderland - Northumbrian Area, Northern Command
    (Raised 1 November 1936 at Sunderland)
    63rd (Northumbrian) Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - Northumbrian Area, Northern Command
    HQ, 176th, 178th (County of Durham) Btys: Sunderland
    269th, 177th (County of Durham) Btys: Seaham Harbour
    64th (Northumbrian) Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - Northumbrian Area, Northern Command
    HQ, 179th (Tynemouth) Bty: North Shields
    180th (Tynemouth) Bty: Seaton, Delaval
    268th (Durham) Bty: Consett
    87th Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - Northumbrian Area, Northern Command
    HQ, 278th-280th Btys: Hebburn
    37th (Tyne Electrical Engineers) Anti-Aircraft Battalion, R.E. (T.A.) - Northumbrian Area, Northern Command
    HQ, 307th, 308th Coys: Tynemouth
    348th, 349th Coys: Heaton, Newcastle-on-Tyne
    5th Battalion, The Royal Northumberland Fusiliers (53rd Searchlight Regiment)(T.A.) - Northumbrian Area, Northern Command
    HQ, 408th-410th Coys: Walker-on-Tyne
    31st (North Midland) Anti-Aircraft Brigade: York - West Riding Area, Northern Command
    (Raised 1 November 1936 at Retford)
    66th (Leed's Rifles, The West Yorkshire Regiment) Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - West Riding Area, Northern Command
    HQ, 184th, 185th, 197th Btys: Leeds
    96th Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - West Riding Area, Northern Command
    HQ, 294th Bty: Castleford
    295th, 296th Btys: Halifax
    287th Bty: Pontefract
    186th Bty: Oulton
    43rd (5th Duke of Wellington's Regiment) Anti-Aircraft Battalion, R.E. (T.A.) - West Riding Area, Northern Command
    HQ, 370th-373rd Coys: Huddersfield
    49th (The West Yorkshire Regiment) Anti-Aircraft Battalion, R.E. (T.A.) - West Riding Area, Northern Command
    HQ, 395th-398th Coys: Bradford
    39th Anti-Aircraft Brigade: Digby, Lincolnshire - West Riding Area, Northern Command
    (Raised 29 September 1938 at Retford - Later Digby)
    62nd (Northumbrian) Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - Northumbrian Area, Northern Command
    HQ, 172nd (1st East Riding), 173rd (2nd East Riding), 266th (3rd East Riding) Btys: Hull
    67th (The York and Lancaster Regiment) Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - West Riding Area, Northern Command
    HQ, 187th-189th, 198th Btys: Rotherham
    91st Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - West Riding Area, Northern Command
    HQ, 286th Bty: Goole
    221st (1st West Riding) Bty: York
    270th (Wentworth) Bty: Wentworth
    40th (The Sherwood Foresters) Anti-Aircraft Battalion, R.E. (T.A.) - West Riding Area, Northern Command
    HQ, 358th-361st Coys: Chesterfield
    46th (The Lincolnshire Regiment) Anti-Aircraft Battalion, R.E. (T.A.) - West Riding Area, Northern Command
    HQ, 382nd-385th Coys: Grimsby
    43rd Anti-Aircraft Brigade: West Hartlepool - Northumbrian Area, Northern Command
    (Raised 1 October 1938 at West Hartlepool)
    85th (Tees) Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - Northumbrian Area, Northern Command
    HQ, 174th (1st North Riding), 175th (2nd North Riding) Btys: Middlesbrough
    220th (County of Durham) Bty: West Hartlepool
    47th (The Durham Light Infantry) Anti-Aircraft Battalion, R.E. (T.A.) - Northumbrian Area, Northern Command
    HQ, 386th-388th Coys: Sunderland
    389th Coy: South Shields
    1st/5th Battalion, The Durham Light Infantry (54th Searchlight Regiment)(T.A.) - Northumbrian Area, Northern Command
    HQ, 411th-413th Coys: Stockton-on-Tees
    2nd/5th Battalion, The Durham Light Infantry (55th Searchlight Regiment)(T.A.) - Northumbrian Area, Northern Command
    HQ, 414th-416th Coys: West Hartlepool
    57th Light Anti-Aircraft Brigade: Newcastle - Northumbrian Area, Northern Command
    (Raised 25 August 1939 at Newcastle-on-Tyne)
    13th Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - West Riding Area, Northern Command
    HQ, 37th, 38th Btys: Hillsborough, Sheffield 6
    122nd Bty: Raised 3 September 1939 as a mobile battery
    28th Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - West Riding Area, Northern Command
    HQ, 112th Bty: Nottingham
    113th Bty: Warwick
    53rd Bty: Derby
    29th Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - West Riding Area, Northern Command
    HQ: Grimsby
    108th Bty (293rd Tp: Mareham; 294th Tp: W. Raynham; 295th Tp: Bircham Newton)
    121st Bty (338th Tp: Walton; 339th Tp: Swanton Morley; 340th Tp: Coltishall;
    341st Tp: Horsham St. Faith)
    30th Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - East Anglia Area, Eastern Command
    HQ: Ipswich
    117th Bty (326th Tp: Debden; 327th Tp: Duxford; 328th Tp: Bassingbourn)
    118th Bty (329th Tp: Cranfield; 330th Tp: Henlow; 331st Tp: Upwood; 332nd Tp: Wyton)
    120th Bty (335th Tp: Mildenhall; 336th Tp: Honington; 337th Tp: Feltwell)

    Notes: Searchlight Regiments
    (Searchlight Regiments formed part of three corps: Royal Engineers, Infantry and Royal Artillery. By 1
    August 1940 all were incorporated into the Royal Artillery. Note: 26th-51st, 58th, 73rd-74th were Royal
    Engineer units, 52nd-57th, 60th, 63rd-69th were still part of their original infantry regiment, and 59th,
    61st-62nd, 70th-72nd, 75th were part of the Royal Artillery.)


    Notes: Anti-Aircraft Artillery Regiments

    92nd Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - Not Formed

    Notes: Light Anti-Aircraft Artillery Regiments

    20th Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - Welsh Area, Western Command
    (Raised 1 December 1938 - Probably attached to 45th AA Brigade)
    HQ: Cardiff
    66th Bty: Hereford
    65th Bty: Llandarcy
    94th Bty: Gascoed R.O.F.
    62nd Bty (161st, 162nd Tps: Newport Harbour and Dock; 400th-402nd Tps: Newport Jct.)
    63rd Bty (163rd, 164th Tps: Cardiff Docks; 165th Tp: Barry Docks; 403rd Tp: Cardiff Jct.)
    64th Bty (167th Tp: Talbot Dock; 168th, 169th Tps: Swansea Docks; 404th Tp: Clydach)
    22nd Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - South Midland Area, Southern Command
    (Raised 1 December 1938 - Probably attached to 34th AA Brigade)
    HQ: Birmingham and/or Coventry
    70th Bty: Dudley Port
    72nd Bty: Hams Hall
    27th Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - West Riding Area, Northern Command
    (Raised 28 August 1939 - Still forming - Probably attached to 32nd AA Brigade)
    HQ: Newark
    95th Bty: Cantler's Yard, Clacton (Harwich and Bawdsey)
    96th Bty: Sutton Lodge, Hornchurch
    107th Bty (290th Tp: Grantham; 291st Tp: Cottesmere; 292nd Tp: Wittering)
    37th (Tyne Electrical Engineers) Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - Northumbrian Area, Northern Command
    (Converted 28 August 1939 - Still forming)
    HQ: Tynemouth (No batteries listed until 10 March 1941)
    38th Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - West Riding Area, Northern Command
    (Raised 28 August 1939 - Still forming)
    HQ: Bradford
    51st Bty: Huddersfield
    124th Bty (350th Tp: Leconfield; 351st Tp: Catfoss; 352nd Tp: Driffield
    125th Bty (353rd Tp: Linton on Ouse; 354th Tp: Church Fenton; 355th, 356th Tps: Ferrybridge)
    39th Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.A. (T.A.) - West Riding Area, Northern Command
    (Raised 28 August 1939 - Still forming)
    HQ: Lincoln
    110th Bty: Scunthorpe
    111th Bty (307th Tp: Cleethorpes; 308th Tp: Binbrook; 309th Tp: Scampton)

    Independent Light Anti-Aircraft Batteries

    52nd Light Anti-Aircraft Battery, R.A. (T.A.) - West Riding Area, Northern Command
    HQ, 135th Tp: Thorncliffe
    71st Light Anti-Aircraft Battery, R.A. (T.A.) - Southern Area, Southern Command
    HQ: Fareham
    84th Light Anti-Aircraft Battery, R.A. (T.A.) - Southern Area, Southern Command
    HQ: Salisbury
    218th Tp: Parton
    219th Tp: Boscombe Down
    220th Tp: Worthy Down
    221st Tp: Boscombe Down
    22nd Tp: Middle Wallop
    85th Light Anti-Aircraft Battery, R.A. (T.A.) - South-Western Area, Southern Command
    223rd Tp: Kemble Park
    224th Tp: Hullavington
    225th Tp: Colerne
    89th Light Anti-Aircraft Battery, R.A. (T.A.) - South Midland Area, Southern Command
    236th Tp: Bicester
    237th Tp: Lyneham
    238th Tp: Upper Heyford
    239th Tp: Little Rissington
    90th Light Anti-Aircraft Battery, R.A. (T.A.) - South-Western Area, Southern Command
    240th Tp: Swindon
    241st Tp: Wroughton
    242nd Tp: Harwell
    91st Light Anti-Aircraft Battery, R.A. (T.A.) - South-Western Area, Southern Command
    243rd Tp: Mount Batten
    244th Tp: Plymouth Balloon Barrage
    93rd Light Anti-Aircraft Battery, R.A. (T.A.) - Welsh Area, Western Command
    249th, 250th Tps: Pembrey R.O.F.
    97th Light Anti-Aircraft Battery, R.A. (T.A.) - East Anglia Area, Eastern Command
    261st Tp: Feltham
    262nd, 263rd Tps: Stanmore
    264th Tp: Northolt
    100th Light Anti-Aircraft Battery, R.A. (T.A.) - Highland Area, Scottish Command
    269th Tp: Montrose
    270th Tp: Aberdeen
    102nd Light Anti-Aircraft Battery, R.A. (T.A.) - Highland Area, Scottish Command
    273rd, 274th Tps: Rosyth
    275th, 276th Tps: Turnhouse
    104th Light Anti-Aircraft Battery, R.A. (T.A.) - Highland Area, Scottish Command
    281st Tp: Wig Bay
    282nd Tp: Dumfries
    105th Light Anti-Aircraft Battery, R.A. (T.A.) - Highland Area, Scottish Command
    283rd, 284th Tps: Lyness
    285th, 286th Tps: Hatston
    106th Light Anti-Aircraft Battery, R.A. (T.A.) - West Riding Area, Northern Command
    287th Tp: Waddington
    288th Tp: Digby
    289th Tp: Manby
    109th Light Anti-Aircraft Battery, R.A. (T.A.) - West Riding Area, Northern Command
    296th Tp: Hemswell
    297th Tp: Kirton-in-Lindsey
    298th Tp: Hatfield Woodhouse
    119th Light Anti-Aircraft Battery, R.A. (T.A.) - East Anglia Area, Eastern Command
    333rd Tp: Stradishall
    334th Tp: Wattisham
    123rd Light Anti-Aircraft Battery, R.A. (T.A.) - Northumbrian Area, Northern Command
    HQ: Durham
    345th, 346th Tps: Birtley
    347th Tp: Ouston
    348th Tp: Thornaby
    349th Tp: Darlington Jct.
    126th Light Anti-Aircraft Battery, R.A. (T.A.) - West Riding Area, Northern Command
    357th Tp: Orgreaves Coke Ovens
    358th Tp: Finningley (Doncaster Aerodrome)
    359th, 360th Tps: Doncaster Jct.
    127th Light Anti-Aircraft Battery, R.A. (T.A.) - Northumbrian Area, Northern Command
    HQ: North Riding
    361st Tp: Catterick
    362nd Tp: Dishforth
    363rd Tp: Leeming
    364th Tp: Topcliffe
    128th Light Anti-Aircraft Battery, R.A. (T.A.) - South Midland Area, Southern Command
    365th Tp: Brize Norton
    366th Tp: Abingdon
    367th Tp: Benson
    131st Light Anti-Aircraft Battery, R.A. (T.A.) - South Midland Area, Southern Command
    374th Tp: Ashton Down
    375th Tp: Hucklecote
    376th Tp: Cheltenham
    134th Light Anti-Aircraft Battery, R.A. (T.A.) - East Lancashire Area, Western Command
    386th Tp: Kirkbride
    387th Tp: Silloth
    388th, 389th Tps: Carlisle Jct.
    135th Light Anti-Aircraft Battery, R.A. (T.A.) - West Lancashire Area, Western Command
    390th Tp: Weaver Jct.
    391st Tp: Eastham Locks
    392nd Tp: Lobstock
    137th Light Anti-Aircraft Battery, R.A. (T.A.) - Aldershot Command
    397th Tp: Farnborough
    398th Tp: Walters Ash
    399th Tp: Woodley
    138th Light Anti-Aircraft Battery, R.A. (T.A.) - Unknown
    HQ: ???

    Source: British Anti-Aircraft Command, TA on 3 September 1939 :: The Patriot Files :: Dedicated to the preservation of military history
     
    Last edited: Aug 16, 2022
  6. Temujin

    Temujin Member

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    mikereme Member

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  8. mikereme

    mikereme Member

    JOSEF VON KLEIN is the person am researching...but the information I have he crashed in Pulford/Pulton...and we information he was buried in Wrexham. But it seems he's buried in Cannock chase...the plot thickens..
    "oh the thrill of research"
     
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  9. RAFCommands

    RAFCommands Senior Member

    You can apply online to the GRO for a £7 pdf copy of his death certificate - this will confirm location and cause of death.

    Deaths Dec 1941
    Von Klein Josef __ W.Cheshire 8a 653

    The entry confirms district of death registration as West Cheshire - Volume 8a, page 653.

    Cannock Chase was a concentration cemetry where post war most German service people were brought to after being exhumed from local graves where the died. One or two still remain buried locally but that was at the decision of either relatives and/or local community.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/hashtag/junkers88?src=hash

    Ross
     
  10. mikereme

    mikereme Member

    Hi Ross,
    My thoughts entirely with the concentration of of "German Graves" ... we seem to have different locations of death West Cheshire & Norfolk...!!

    With my research they were taken to Wrexham after the crash and documented/buried etc before maybe taken to Staffordshire... The Norfolk maybe a mistake!

    Thank you for your input
     
  11. mikereme

    mikereme Member

    Hello again,
    Could please shed light on this German pilot
    Flying He 111 crashed in wrexham...attached link
    Ser 527...walter hottenrot....
    Kracker Luftwaffe Archive
     
  12. hutt

    hutt Member

    Hi
    My hunch is you need to take a look at WO 166/2259, 33AA Brigade Diary for March - December 41 and WO 166/2141 which I do have a copy of but only up to June 41. I'm not sure there was much AA around Wrexham itself so would make a guess that the aircraft was damaged further north over Merseyside or possibly Crewe. The diaries I do have point to possible AA units but could be a wild goose chase in the absence of something definite in the two diaries above. I would be fairly certain that a note of the incident and the regiment / battery most likely responsible will exist somewhere.
     
  13. mikereme

    mikereme Member

    Brilliant thank you will get the diaries of the 33 AA bde...I did think it may of sustained damage over its objective..
     
  14. dryan67

    dryan67 Senior Member

    Interesting, the good old Patriot files, which ripped off my website many years back, and posted my AA Command order of battle intact. At least you quoted your source. All of the British Commonwealth orders of battle for 3 September 1939 were taken from my site by the Patriot Files. I guess that 'Patriot' has a different meaning nowadays as we can see here in the US.
     
  15. Temujin

    Temujin Member

    Sorry, I just found it while searching the web for info for this thread, did not know it belong originally to you. As you pointed out, I posted my sources for information I find normally (“normally”, sometimes I forget). Is their a site you host that I can use for research information??
     
  16. dryan67

    dryan67 Senior Member

    I am not faulting you but complimenting your integrity. My site has been gone for many years but if you have some needs let me know. Back in 2001, Bruce Swain published a book entitled “A Chronology of the Australian Armed Forces at War 1939-45”. He took most of his appendices from my site. At least I got an apology from the publisher and a promise to give me credit in any future editions. After that and the Patriot Files situation, I took the site down. In both cases, if they had asked I would have given permission to use the material, giving me credit. A number of other authors have used my material and have given me credit, which I appreciate.
     
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  17. mikereme

    mikereme Member

    Hi Dryan67..
    Just want to say thank you for the information that was provided for my research.
     
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  18. Osborne2

    Osborne2 Well-Known Member

    The vast majority, but l believe possibly not quite all, of German WW2 graves were exhumed from their original burial locations around the UK and re-interred at Cannock at the behest of the Federal Government of West Germany and the U.K.post war. There was an AA site at Kinnerton under the southern approach to Liverpool and the other important Mersey estuary ports, industry and petrochemical sites. The AA site eventually became a POW hostel.
     
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  19. mikereme

    mikereme Member

    Hi Osborne2..

    We have seen the original register of the pilots that were taken to Wrexham and it does state that they were moved to Stafford...all this came out from this week.

    OMG.. the information about the AA site at kinnerton is great news. Could you please give me more information on this?
     
  20. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    More info here re German war graves UK
    My photos from June 2022 show the German casualties are still buried in Hitchin cemetery Hertfordshire so as said not all bodies were reburied in Cannock
    German War Graves
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