Abbreviations - here we go again!

Discussion in 'Royal Artillery' started by 64 LAA R.A., Jun 19, 2015.

  1. 64 LAA R.A.

    64 LAA R.A. Member

    I am doing war diary WO170/1237 for 64 LAA Rgt. 23 Armd Bde Gp to confer with Lt. Col. Berry (AA & OMG)
    What does AA & OMG stand for? Trawled through Google without any luck. Any gunners out there know?
     
  2. gmyles

    gmyles Senior Member

    Assistant adjutant and quartermaster general. It's a hq staff role.
     
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  3. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    agreed with gmyles , it's AA & QMG not OMG though 64 LAA RA (not knowing your real name) ;)
     
  4. 64 LAA R.A.

    64 LAA R.A. Member

    There you go knew I had come to the right place, thanks guys you are wonderful. :rolleyes:

    names Margaret by the way Owen (under the stairs - is that due to your wife or a life choice Owen!)

    As you may have guessed doing dad's war record so rather dozy on abbreviations - driving me up the wall actually, but heyho will be back guys if I get stuck again and nuts to Google

    Margaret
     
  5. mapshooter

    mapshooter Senior Member

    I think a Lt Col AA&QMG would have been a Divisional HQ staff officer, not Bde HQ, unless he was newly promoted and stayed in place in Bde HQ.
     
  6. 64 LAA R.A.

    64 LAA R.A. Member

    Back again guys - diary > off loading EFI and Red Cross stores. What does EFI stand for, this time had a look in WW2 talk list but nothing doing.

    While we are talking abbreviations what is CCRA and DDMS ref Brigadier please.

    Thanks
    Margaret
    B)
     
  7. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    CCRA = Corps Commander Royal Artillery.
    DDMS = Deputy Director Medical Services
     
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  8. 64 LAA R.A.

    64 LAA R.A. Member

    Thanks Owen. Still trying to find out what E.F.I. abbreviation means any thoughts anyone. It is referenced in the diary for off loading stores etc.

    Margaret
     
  9. gmyles

    gmyles Senior Member

    Hi Margaret

    (Temporary) Lt-Col Berry (23rd Armoured Brigade Group) was an Acting Lieutenant Colonel and the senior RASC officer in ARKFORCE, the name given for the composite formation of troops brought together for the landings in Greece in October 1944 all under the command of Brigadier Arkwright. Therefore ARKFORCE HQ staff were adopting roles typically given to Division HQs and even some Corps HQ Staff. ARKFORCE was disbanded as soon as HQ 3rd Infantry Crops (General Scobie) was in a position to assume command over all forces in Greece.

    In December when the troubles started in Athens Lt-Colonel Berry was again moved temporarily onto a hastily re-formed ARKFORCE (under command temporary Maj-Gen Arkwright) to be AA & QMG along with (Temporary) Lt-Col Phillips in the General Staff 1 (GSO1) role.

    Have a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/staff_(Military) and look at the British HQ formations. But remember, that's the way it should be, not necessarily the way it was in Greece.

    Hope this helps

    Gus
     
  10. gmyles

    gmyles Senior Member

    Hi Margaret

    EFI stands for Expeditionary Force Institutes

    It provided front line recreational and catering services to the British Army during the war.

    The modern day one is the NAAFI.

    Hope this helps

    Gus
     
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  11. Sheldrake

    Sheldrake All over the place....

    EFI = Expeditionary Forces Instititute It is the NAAFI in uniform on operations http://www.naafi.co.uk/expeditionary-naafi The stores might just be cigarettes, shoe polish, beer stationary etc ,
     
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  12. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Posting a reminder here for those folks who might find this thread later while searching for answers

    We have a forum database for Abbreviations (not just for service records but for any reference found in war diaries, histories, files, ... etc)
    http://ww2talk.com/forums/page/Databases/abbreviations.html
    It'd be great if it could be kept up-to-date - for the next enquiry that comes along.
     
  13. 64 LAA R.A.

    64 LAA R.A. Member

    Thanks guys for all your help - actually after lot digging found this "Efficient Facilities Initiative" in another research paper. It is wrong?

    Thanks
    Margaret
    :salut:
     
  14. 64 LAA R.A.

    64 LAA R.A. Member

    Right back again diary refers S.G.M. dump - another abbreviation what does it mean, looked in WW2 talk abbreviaitions but not there

    Roger and out
    :eek:
     
  15. op-ack

    op-ack Senior Member

    Margaret

    This is a new one on me and as most forum members will agree, I am seriously sad when it comes to Royal Artillery terminology! Can you post the context of the abbreviation, that might give an idea of the meaning.

    Regards


    Phil
     
  16. Sheldrake

    Sheldrake All over the place....

    what is the context? can you post the page or paragraph in which the term is mentioned?
     
  17. 64 LAA R.A.

    64 LAA R.A. Member

    Hi Guys see below for whole para from War Diary WO170/1237

    "28 Nov. > Arrangements completed for certian commitments to be taken over by Greek Civil Police, relief commenced on Oil Storage Dept, Socombel, and certain S.E.M. dumps, also relief by Gendarmarie from Perama on Shell Installations."

    oops just seen typo, sorry I have a visual impairment and sometimes do not see errors. Above put S.G.M and now on further looking at writing in diary it appears to be S.E.M.

    Thanks
    Margaret
    :wink:
     
  18. gmyles

    gmyles Senior Member

    Hi Margaret

    I have a "SEMSEC Report" for 2 Dec 44, listing the locations of all the stores in Athens/Piraues and their contents, ie Signals stores, Royal Engineer Stores, Ammunition, etc.

    So I guess SEM must be the same abbreviation.

    I am sure someone familiar with RASC/RAOC jargon will come up with the proper definition.

    Gus
     
  19. 64 LAA R.A.

    64 LAA R.A. Member

    Thanks Gus you are a mine of info
    Anyone complete Gus' suggestion at all please

    Margaret
     
  20. rflory

    rflory Junior Member

    Salvaged Enemy Material ??
     
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