A Xanten Crash

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Great work, Uwe.

44-77583 crashed near Pommereuil in France, no one was killed or went missing, that's why there is no MACR. One man landed in a tree, then fell to the ground and severely hurt his spine.

 

Uwe,

There is no information on who took that photo or when for that matter, so the shadows aren't going to help much. The field in which the tail sits is now covered in Xanten post war housing. Use your common sense and don't be led astray by useless lists that only obscure the truth. They know damn well where that 'Q' aircraft crashed - how could they not. And why isn't there a documented account by crew master T/Sgt Rhoads?

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"Useless lists..."

 

The tails shadow is about twice its height meaning it was taken between 9:00 am and 10:00 am or between 3:30pm and 4:30pm (Assuming the 24th). This is very rough and not all that reliable as it is based on the assumption that we are approximately tangential to the shadow.

Each hour difference has a ~20o impact.

BR
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Once again - In English please.

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I'm not translating - in English please.

Regards ...

 

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Yo,

The den Brok pic, be it photo or film still, appears to have been taken early in the day going by length of shadows. Also there are no people about or evidence of smoke, so very unlikely to have been taken on the 24th.



These guys just want to hijack this pic when it is obviously the same tail as captured by Sgt. Chitham at Xanten. They have literally nothing to work with and are grasping at straws. It's embarrassing to have to respond to this amateurish charade.

Regards ...

 

Mir fehlen wirklich die Worte.

Die Geschichte endet genau hier und jetzt

Vielen Dank für Ihre Unterstützung, auch über PN.

Gibt es eine Liste von Abstürzen? Ja.
Er bleibt, wo er hingehört.

Ich werde sehen, wie ich alles löschen kann.

Vielen Dank für Ihre Aufmerksamkeit.

 

Unbecoming, unwarranted, rude.

 

But true ... Uwe can start his own thread.

Regards ...

"A Xanten Crash" - the PDF for download:

A Xanten Crash - Operation Varsity.pdf - Icedrive

 

Heavy Gun Site?

Jock Coleville, PM Churchill's secretary, mentioned in his account that the Xanten crash aircraft came down at a heavy gun position.



AFPU photographer Sgt. Laing captured an unidentified heavy gun battery involved in the Operation Plunder bombardment prior to March 24th.



Was one of the photos taken close by the later Xanten C-46 crash site, but from a slightly different angle?



If the battery can be identified perhaps the crash incident is described in their war diary as I imagine some of those men had to run for dear life.

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Heavy Guns Unit

For the above big guns I looked around and thought they might have belonged to the 90th Heavy Anti-Aircraft Regiment, Royal Artillery ... ? For the opening of Operation Plunder and Varsity they were with 9 AGRA and situated near Xanten.

The men and vehicles seen in Sgt. Chitham's footage shot at Xanten may have also been with the same heavy gun regiment if they were already on site when the C-46 crashed.

Regards ...

 

Wacos over Xanten



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Those aren't an Anti-Aircraft Regiment, they are a Heavy Regiment (155 mm Long Tom).

 

Ok thanks,

Not sure where that leaves me as I don't know enough about artillery pieces to comment. I was doubtful about them being anti-aircraft. They still strike me as being at Xanten.



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