3660055 Private GEORGE ATHERTON, 6 South Lancashire Regiment: 06/07/1940

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  1. Mavis Williams

    Mavis Williams Well-Known Member

    Hi everyone,
    I am researching George Atherton, below:-

    Private GEORGE ATHERTON
    Service Number: 3660055
    Regiment & Unit/Ship - South Lancashire Regiment - 6th Bn.
    Date of Death - Died 06 July 1940
    Age 45 years old
    Buried or commemorated at CHESTER (OVERLEIGH) CEMETERY
    New Portion. Grave 4063.
    United Kingdom
    Country of Service United Kingdom
    Additional Info Son of Frank and Sara Atherton; husband of Lena Atherton, of Saltney Ferry.
    Personal Inscription MY BELOVED HUSBAND; MAY HIS SOUL REST IN PEACE

    I am having problems trying to find out a time line that would fit with what I know about George and what the newspaper reports say about his Army History. According to the National Register, her was born in 1900, yet on the CWGC he is stated to be 45 when he died. However, the reporter states that he fought in India, the Dardenelles and France in WW1, which, if he had been born in 1895, perhaps this was possible, however, the 6th Bn South Lancashire Regt was in Gallipolli, but went afterwards to Mesopotamia via Egypt. Would he have time to go to France as well, as in 1911 he is seen on the census living with his parents and he is seen on the 1921 census, at home, out of work. He was ill and left work in 1939 and joined the South Lancashire Regt., in 1940, two days later he was in hopsital and died shorlty after. The 1911 census transcription, the 1921 transcription, and uploaded the 1939 National Register and the two newspaper reports.

    1921 Census Of England & Wales
    56 Pine Street, Bury, Lancashire, England
    Household members (4 people)
    John Henry Mowe Head Male 1861 59 Northampton, Northamptonshire, England Watchmaker &, Repairer J D Lepp, Watch Maker & Jeweller
    Sarah Mowe Wife Female 1873 47 Bury, Lancashire, England Household Duties
    Clarissa Atherton Step-daughter Female 1902 19 Bury, Lancashire, England Printer Bibby & Baron, Paper Makers & Printers
    George Atherton Step-son Male 1900 21 Bury, Lancashire, England Locomotive, Fireman Lanc & Yorks Railway Co, Loco Dept (Out Of Work)

    1911 census Enumeration District: 21
    11/13, Hill Street, Walshaw, Tottington, Lancashire (4 rooms)
    ATHERTON, Frank Head M 38, (Married 11 years) Iron Machinist (Motor Cars) born Winsford, Cheshire.
    ATHERTON, Sarah Wife M 35 (2 children born, both still living) born Bury, Lancashire
    ATHERTON, George Son 11 born Bury, Lancashire.
    ATHERTON, Clarissia Dau 8 born Bury, Lancashire.

    I would appreciate any help as I want his story to be correct.
    Regards, Mavis Williams
     

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  2. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    The newspaper article says he was in the Lancashire Fusiliers in WW1.
    Look his medal index card up.
     
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  3. Mavis Williams

    Mavis Williams Well-Known Member

    Thanks Owen, I did a search on FMP but there was nothing for him, ususally putting in his No., is enough, however, according to Lancashire Regiment - Wikipedia, this was only formed 1957 - "The regiment was formed, as a consequence of defence cuts instigated by the 1957 Defence White Paper, by the amalgamation of the 1st Battalion, East Lancashire Regiment and the 1st Battalion, South Lancashire Regiment (The Prince of Wales's Volunteers) on 1 July 1958.[1]." Before that is was the East Lancashire & South Lancashire Regts.

    Lancashire Infantry Museum - Wikipedia
    History
    The museum was founded as the museum of the Loyal Regiment (North Lancashire) in 1929.[2] It chronicles the men of Lancashire who fought for their country during the wars. It also acts as an archive of battles fought by the Duke of Lancaster's Regiment and its antecedent regiments, including the Queen's Lancashire Regiment, the East Lancashire Regiment, the South Lancashire Regiment, the Loyal Regiment (North Lancashire) and the Lancashire Regiment (Prince of Wales's Volunteers). In all, the museum's collections cover 120 separate units, including the 59 battalions formed by the antecedent Lancashire regiments during the First World War, and all associated Militia, Rifle Volunteers, Territorials, Home Guard and Cadet units.[3]

    I must admit I am confused.
     
  4. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    That number is not his WW1 number.

    Why are you looking for Lancs Regt & not Lancs FUSILIERS ?
     
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  5. 51highland

    51highland Very Senior Member

    2 possibles for Lancs Fusiliers. Number 7241 and Number 31000 and then 118666 in Labour Corps.
     

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  6. Mavis Williams

    Mavis Williams Well-Known Member

    Thank you Owen, I have no idea what his WW1 Number was, I did think that was his WW2 Number, as he had just joined, but that was the only clue to put in FMP. As far as the Lancashier Fusilliers is concerned, that is my fault, I assumed that it was the Regt., and did not recognise Fusilliers, but the print out was very bad as you can see. I really want to know if either Lancashire Fuliliers or Regiment was in the places that he was supposed to have served in and in his timeline of being born in 1900, although I know the CWGC say he was 45 years old.
     
  7. Mavis Williams

    Mavis Williams Well-Known Member

    Thank you 51highland, mush appreciated.
     

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