21 Army Group Formation Badge

Discussion in 'NW Europe' started by avro626, Apr 10, 2009.

  1. avro626

    avro626 Junior Member

    Hi, Hope this is the right place for this question. I am looking for info on the 21 Army Group Formation Badge, my Dad (RASC Driver) crossed the channel on 30th June '44 and a photo of him shows the Arms of Service strip on his left arm and above it is a dark coloured shield with a lighter coloured cross on it, there is no sign of a sword or anything on the cross. All examples 21 Army Group Formation badges I have seen 'on the net' seem to have a sword (or two) within the cross. Can anyone shed some light on this please. Cheers, Dave.
     
  2. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    What's date of photo?
    The 38th Div had a similar sign, a black shield with a yellow cross.

    British Formation Signs

    IWM photo H 16609

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    Men of the 10th Royal Welch Fusiliers at Piddlehinton Camp, Dorset
     
  3. avro626

    avro626 Junior Member

    Hi Owen, not sure of the date but I guess at late 1944 or early 1945. I looked at the 38th badge but this badge is 'square' with a yellow cross. The badge on my Dad's battledress is a 'shield' so I guess not the 38th. Dave.

    http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll102/avro626/Dad3.jpg

    This link will show of photo of him and the badge.
     
  4. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    That's not a very good one on that site, I've edited in a better one.
    Looking at your photo then I think we can discard my 38th Div idea.
    :(
     
  5. avro626

    avro626 Junior Member

    The only other info I can give is from his service records which reads "Unit - 710 Coy Gen Tpt - Date 30/6/44 Embarked for BLA". Dave.

    Just a thought, my Dad said that during his time in France/Holland/Germany he was involved with transporting Bailey Bridges, could 710 Coy be Royal Engineers?
     
  6. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Found one like yours.
    Looks like the swords wee for HQ see link.
    21st Army Group (GHQ and L of C Troops)
    Later, British Troops in France
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    Ref BLM 1-12-11
    Printed Blue cross on a Red shield
    After the cessation of hostilities at the end of W.W.II 21st Army Group Troops in France,
    in the ‘ Rear Maintenance Area’ adopted the GHQ & L of C Troops shield.

    Part 41 - Miscellaneous Corps Formation Signs & Patches
     

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