1st & 2nd Fife and Forfar Yeomanry

Discussion in 'RAC & RTR' started by nickc, May 2, 2006.

  1. nickc

    nickc Member

    ..... also anyone know how i can check these tinted safety goggles that i have , i have looked on the web and cant find anything, they have a blue tint to them and im assuming they are an anti glare for the flame at night maybe??????
  2. Donnie

    Donnie Remembering HHWH

    Not sure that you can veiw them for free, this is the E-mail i recieved from them.

    "The shop has passed your enquiry on to the Archive. We have the 1st Fife
    & Forfar War Diary, but it is for the whole regiment, not just "A"
    Squadron. We can send you a copy of this for 23.50 pounds plus 1.95
    postage & packing. You can pay by cheque to the Tank Museum Ltd or by
    credit card, either by phone or a couple of e-mails.


    I would have bought it a while ago but i am still paying for some medals i bought.

  3. nickc

    nickc Member


    hi, i got some more stuff from my Grandads this w/e and i got the following

    war office maps of europe

    original prints showing the 79th Arm Div sweeping through europe and where units went

    F&F Y listings of each town/village they went to inc dates

    also a map of UK in German, not sure if this was captured ?

    i will scan some in this week and type out the chronolical info unlesss you already know it??

  4. Donnie

    Donnie Remembering HHWH

    No i have no idea where they were during the war and anything you would pass on to me would be great, You are so lucky to have all of this memorabilia from your grandads war service. They only thing i have relating to my grandads service is 1 photo and nothing else. Do you have your grandads medals, mine never wanted his.

  5. DKB

    DKB Junior Member

    I've scanned the pics from the magazine but can't get them to upload here, I must either be doing something wrong or haven't the privileges so here's a link instead.

    Index of /richard.dickens1/fife

    Hope you find them interesting
  6. Donnie

    Donnie Remembering HHWH

    Hi mate, thanks for the photos. Not many on "A" Squadron so me grandad wasnt there. Do you know where i can get copies of "The Sporran".

  7. DKB

    DKB Junior Member

    Hi Donnie,
    As a low print run 40s publication not many remain, I was lucky enough to find one on ebay, but its probably worth trying specialist booksellers.
  8. Donnie

    Donnie Remembering HHWH

    Cheers mate,

    I will look into it

  9. nickc

    nickc Member

    A couple of images 1st FFY sqn C and more to follow

    the group shot appears to be taken after the war due to bottles of wine imaybe and the 3 guys image shows my Grandad on the right. :)

    Attached Files:

  10. nickc

    nickc Member

    Dont know much about these 3 images, i guess the action shot is a croc in training? i have a list of names on the back of 1 of these images which i will type out later


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  11. etienne

    etienne Junior Member

    Hi nickc
    The first picture is propebly taken in Genk Waterschei in Belgium in the begining of 1945 .Do you have more pictures of this serie?
  12. nickc

    nickc Member

    thats about it for the photos, the only other things i have are.

    tank goggles(tinted)

    a painting illustrating the sweep into Europe of all 3 Sqdns plus HQ and acts as a war diary, this is a big print and i cant scan unfortunately.

    also some little cards identifying insignia of other 79th Arm Div units.

  13. 51st.HD

    51st.HD Junior Member

    My Great uncle was in the F&F Yeo. in 1939-40. He was from Kirriemuir, in Angus. I'm not sure what squadron he was in. When His unit first went to France in 1940 they were part of the Highland Div, but were later replace because the Div Commander did not think them very efficeient! My Gt Uncle [Charles S Lyon] was wounded in 1940 and ''got away at Dunkirk'' He still had his rifle when he landed and some fellow asked him for it, so he handed it over. It was a few seconds later he came out of his daze and realised the man had been civilian. He never saw his rifle again.
    Charles later served in the Parachute Regiment and then was commissioned into the Royal Scots. In the Early 50's he was a TA Captain in the Black Watch. He died in New Zealand in 1978.
    If anyone has any information on the F&F Yeo regarding there time in France in 1940, i would like to hear from them, as I can't seem to find anything about them from this period.
  14. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Stewart some pictures from IWM .

    Light Tank Mk VI crews of 1st Fife and Forfar Yeomanry, attached to 51st Division, 19 March 1940.


    Light Tank Mk VIs and Bren carriers of 1st Fife and Forfar Yeomanry, attached to 51st Division, 19 March 1940.


    Scout carriers of 51st Highland Division with Light Tank Mk VIs of 1st Fife and Forfar Yeomanry visible in the background, 19 March 1940


    The crew of a Light Tank Mk VI of 1st Fife and Forfar Yeomanry, attached to 51st Division, 19 March 1940.
  15. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    From Dunkirk Fight to the Last Man.
    page 258
    That just left two infantry battalions -2 Glosters and 4 Ox and Bucks to defend Cassel-although they were to supported by tanks and Bren-gun carriers from 1st Light Armoured Reconnaissance Brigade, which included 1st Fife and Forfar Yeomanry and the 1st East Riding Yeomanry.

    page 365
    Brigadier Charles Norman's force, consisting of the 1st Fife and Forfar Yeomanry's tanks and carriers, and the 1st Welsh Guards foot soldiers had been ordered to hold the line that ran from Bergues to West Cappel. It was clear that these two units , backed by 6th Green Howards, did not have enough men to hold this four-mile line securely, but Brigadier Norman was determined that they would at least delay any Germans who tried to reach the Poperinghe-Bergues road.
  16. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Quotes from above book would have originally been taken from here

    HyperWar: The War in France and Flanders 1939–1940 [Chapter XIII]

    In default of orders, General Thorne could not know how long the 48th Division was expected to maintain its extended position. Even if the garrisons of Soex, Wormhoudt, Cassel and Hazebrouck could hold out, enemy penetration between those places might seriously interfere with withdrawals taking place farther east. He appealed to General Headquarters for reinforcements, and Brigadier Norman's 1st Light Armoured Reconnaissance Brigade and the 1st Welsh Guards (both of whom had been sent the day before to strengthen the defences of Cassel) were put under his command, as were also the 6th Green Howards from Usherforce. Part of Brigadier Norman's brigade—the 1st East Riding Yeomanry—was left to help the 145th Brigade group at Cassel, but the rest, with the Welsh Guards, were moved north to hold the area Quaedypre, Vyfweg, West Cappel.[13]

  17. Donnie

    Donnie Remembering HHWH

    Hi nick,

    I like the pics you have, a list of names would be great. Do you mind if i use a couple of photos on my website?? Also the man bottom left in the photo i have attached, do you think he looks like my grandad?? see the link for my grandads pic http://www.freewebs.com/dswgreatwar/bobnewitt.htm

    Thanks, Donnie

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  18. nickc

    nickc Member


    Yes he does mate, unfortunately i have the names on the back of this phot and there is no Newitt listed.

    I literally need a magnifying glass to read the writing and i will update my post with names, i do know it was taken in a place called Neuen Kirchen 1946
  19. nickc

    nickc Member

    also im sure there is no issues around using any of the images your on your site, hope they help mate :)
  20. Donnie

    Donnie Remembering HHWH

    Thanks for the photos. Shame i thought it was a pic of him.

    i will get the war diary in about 1 week maybe 2. I am going to bovington..is there any pics of the tank that yours and my grandad fought in i would be happy to take some.


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