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195 Squadron - understanding war records

Discussion in 'The War In The Air' started by KTP Research, May 27, 2025.

  1. KTP Research

    KTP Research Member

    Hi, I have attached a war record and photo of Stanley Le Brun, who was in the 195 Squadron. Would anyone be able to advise why in the war records from the National Archives these are the only pages available?
    Can I find out any more information about the postings or when he was missing? It also mentions ‘photo’ - would that mean he took photos later in the war?
    Many thanks in advance.
     

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  2. RAFCommands

    RAFCommands Trained to colour between the lines.

    Form 543a is the only surviving part of an RAF Record of Service archived. It was intended for pension purposes.

    Filming was of the records not the serviceman however he remustered as a u/t Photographer

    Missing for one night 5th Dec when Lancaster NG305 force landed. Returned the next day.

    Ross
     
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  3. KTP Research

    KTP Research Member

    Thank you for your reply. What is a ‘u/t photographer’? Do you know why any other records were not archived?
     
  4. RAFCommands

    RAFCommands Trained to colour between the lines.

    Under training Photographer.

    Parliament in the 1920s set out a destroy policy for records - this was a sequenced paring of correspondence/forms from a service record over several years so they were never retained for archive transfer.

    "
    In 1943/44 the List of document types had been laid down in the Public Record Office Act, 1877 and updated in 1927.

    From King’s Regulations and Air Council Instructions
    <
    For Documents in the RAF Record Office:
    22 Service Documents of Airmen:-
    (a) Certificates of service – Fifteen years after the airman becomes non-effective.
    (b) Miscellaneous Record Sheets – Fifteen years after the airman becomes non-effective.
    (c) Trade Index Cards – Fifteen years after the airman becomes non-effective.
    (d) Medical History Envelopes and documents..

    ..Fifteen years after the airman becomes non-effective.

    23 Conduct Sheets:-
    Fifteen years after the airman becomes non-effective.

    24 Technical Qualification forms:-
    (a) Results of courses of instruction and examinations – Five years after the airman becomes non-effective.
    (b) Certificates of passing out – Five years after the airman becomes non-effective.
    (c) Choice of Trade – Five years after the airman becomes non-effective.
    (d) Character and Trade Proficiency – Five years after the airman becomes non-effective.
    (e) Technical History Sheets – Five years after the airman becomes non-effective.

    For Documents in RAF Units
    19 Nominal Rolls of temporary importance:-
    One year
    [Nominal Rolls of Units and others giving important information will be preserved.]

    Note:-A Ledger Sheet is maintained which gives the full details of the airman’s service, particulars of marriages, and births of children, medical history, trade particulars, &cc; and it is proposed that this Ledger Sheet shall be permanently preserved. It is considered that this record will be sufficient to deal with all future enquiries.

    For the purpose of this Schedule the term “becomes non-effective” should be deemed to be the date on which an airman is taken off the strength of the Royal Air Force, or R.A.F. Reserve, whichever is the later.
    >

    So after 1 year documents held on the unit were destroyed and headings transferred onto a Ledger Sheet for permament retention.

    After 5 years the contents of Form 280 were destroyed and the “contents wrap” retained
    After 15 years the Form 280 was to destroyed.

    The only document to be preserved was the Ledger Sheet or to give it it’s RAF Form Number: Form 543."

    Form 280 – Certificate of Service, Airman – RAFCommands 2.0

    Ross
     
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  5. KTP Research

    KTP Research Member

    Thank you very much for all the information.
     
  6. Smudger195

    Smudger195 Active Member

    Hi,

    There is a active 195 Squadron FB page and a book on 195 Squadron.

    Regards

    Steve
     

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  7. KTP Research

    KTP Research Member

    Thank you.
     

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