Hi all I hope this is the right category for my query - if not - apologies and please direct me to the right one! I am one of those anoraks tracing my family tree and have in my possession my grand fathers service record. It has many abreviations which I am struggling to understand - even after reading the regimental diaries!! Does anyone know the Unit abreviations? D, 1, ITC, S.S.BM? I know my grand father served with the Royal Berkshires possibly 2nd btn. He joined in 1933 and did tour of duty in Egypt, Palestine, India and time in Syria. Any help you can offer would be greatfully received. Joanne
Hi all I hope this is the right category for my query - if not - apologies and please direct me to the right one! I am one of those anoraks tracing my family tree and have in my possession my grand fathers service record. It has many abreviations which I am struggling to understand - even after reading the regimental diaries!! Does anyone know the Unit abreviations? D, 1, ITC, S.S.BM? I know my grand father served with the Royal Berkshires possibly 2nd btn. He joined in 1933 and did tour of duty in Egypt, Palestine, India and time in Syria. Any help you can offer would be greatfully received. Joanne Welcome aboard Joanne. If you post his Service No I am sure the good members on here will help.
Hi Joanne Welcome to the Forum, I'm sure that you will receive knowledgeable support. It might help if you could scan (and attach) the page/pages that contains the various acronyms. Seeing them in the context of more meaningful entries usually give important clues. (See below one of my own record sheets purely as an example of how clear you can get them)
Hi thank you all for your advice. My grandfathers service no is 5334556. I have not been successful in attaching copies of some of the pages of the record - I will have to keep working at that. Does anyone know what Depot meant? Also my grand father was granted leave at one point with LRRA - any ideas? Thank you Joanne
As you already know that number was included in the block for the Royal Berkshires. Have you contacted The Wardrobe yet? If you have trouble attaching your images, if you like email them to me & I'll post them. PM me first.
Hi thank you all for your advice. My grandfathers service no is 5334556. I have not been successful in attaching copies of some of the pages of the record - I will have to keep working at that. Does anyone know what Depot meant? Also my grand father was granted leave at one point with LRRA - any ideas? Thank you Joanne Longer _ _ Allowance the Army use a similiar abbreviation today LSSA the two S's being serving and seperation. Just found this on google and I wonder if this may be who he went on leave with ? During the second world war, several LRRA regiments fought the Japanese army in manchuria, and occasional dogfights would break out over the Sea of Okhotsk, between Japanese A6M2s and LRR Hurricanes. The Republic of Magadan became the Parliamentary Democracy of Lunatic Retard Robots in 1932, when the then Prime Minister Ezra Timoshenko was drunk at a party after traveling to Prague to see Karel Kapek's R.U.R. The name apparently came from there. I've heard of Magadan before on Charlie B and Ewan Mc's ride around the World. Magadan being a city near the road of bones. Can anyone else elaborate on these regiments? ps this may be way off course.
Joanne sent me these for me to upload to the forum. I see at one point he was in No 1 Commando. I hope our Veterans can help explain some of the text better than I can. I now the first sheet is split down the middle, that's how Joanne sent it.
LS & GC pay after 8 years colour service with effect from 6.2.41. That means Long Service & Good Conduct. I see he also atttched to No 53 Company Pioneer Corps. To me it looks like he was recalled to the Colours in 1939 and spent most of his time at Infantry Training Centres. Still only a humble Private though. He is discharged as permantely unfit after spending time with No 1 Commando, wonder what the story is there? Cropped the first sheet to make text larger.
Owen Brownie points for posting these scans for Joanne I've had a good look at the scans and regretfully cannot offer any easy "yes... I know what that means !" I would like to ask another question, however, that might, in the long run, benefit posters like Joanne. Does anyone know of any good lists of Acronyms relating to Army records ? GOOGLE offers thousands of such lists but the Abbreviatons and Acronyms are either US based or at the wrong sort of level. Would one of the Mods care to write to the Army Records Dept of the MOD officially and using this forum as its heading ask them to provide us with an official list ? Just a thought....... Ron
I'll give it a shot Ron, our own abbreviations list was started from a National Archives open source page, but one would hope the MOD had a better list somewhere (wonder if there's a general one that covers up to modern abbreviations too - could be problematic). I will find an address. (merged posts) Hopeful contact sent Ron - They say they'll give some sort of reply within 15 days, so fingers crossed we might get somewhere.
As some abbreviations were mentioned yesterday I thought "hmm, I don't recall the MOD ever getting back to me, maybe I used a different email...". But no, a reply came this very morning - sadly no help, but a reply nonetheless Thank you for your e-mail dated 17 November 2008 requesting an official list of abbreviations from the World War 2 period. Your e-mail has been passed to me for reply. This branch does not hold a single collated list of abbreviations for WW2. Any records from this period have since been passed to The National Archives in Kew. Yours Sincerely [name removed by me] Corporate Memory Analysis Branch So no; no sort of list available from them. It looks like the one we're gradually building may be as useful as it currently gets for easily accesible stuff on this specific area of abbreviations. (I kind of had to look up what the Corporate Memory Analysis Branch was... no more than a renamed 'Army Historical branch', which the NA tells me on that page will refer historical queries to them . Worth noting perhaps, so nobody waits too long trying to contact them about something they don't cover.) ~A
Hi everyone, I have 15 pages of ABBRV'S would you like me to post them all ? it may take sometime to scan them all. Ken.
Hi everyone, I have 15 pages of ABBRV'S would you like me to post them all ? it may take sometime to scan them all. Ken. Most definately, thanks.
Hi everyone, I have 15 pages of ABBRV'S would you like me to post them all ? it may take sometime to scan them all. Ken. I reckon that would be well appreciated Ken. If you could whack 'em into the main abbreviations thread I know a fair few will always be thankful for any extra help on these things.
Hi All, I am retired now and after spending 21 years in the Royal Australian Air Force I thought, now that I have time, I had better research my fathers WW2 history. I now have copies of Service records and I think I am doing quite well with deciphering the shorthand/abbreviation that have been used! But one or two have me a little baffled, so any help would be greatly received. 1 22 Jun 1941 Pte “D” COY 10th (HD) Bttn King’s Radio Location Submitted to W.O. on App ACI 13780/41 Woodley WO – War Office or Warrant Officer 2. 11 Sep 1942 Pte 30 King’s Discharged from C.L.S. Hospital Portwey Weymouth Field Can't find anything on Radio Location Submitted???? And any help of C.L.S. ,which is my interpretation of the handwriting. The Hospital existed but I presume the abbreviation is military!!! Again thanks for any help. David Weaver
