Lorne MARR. A&SH of Canada story

Discussion in 'Canadian' started by Owen, Jun 17, 2006.

  1. Owen

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    This morning whilst Googling I came across this.
    BBC - WW2 People's War - Lorne- The Canadian Soldier

    Lorne- The Canadian Soldier


    The 1st Battalion Argyll and Sutherlands Highlanders of Canada (P.L.) arrived in Uckfield on 6th November 1943. One day just before Christmas that year, I was injured in a road traffic accident on the bridge over the River Uck. My brother, Arthur, and I were on our way home from school, when we were struck by a motorcycle travelling down the hill. The machine was ridden by a despatch rider in the above regiment. I was admitted to the local Cottage Hospital with my left leg broken. The despatch rider, known only by his Christian name Lorne, visited me in hospital and at home frequently after I was discharged. In April 1944, out of my plaster cast but still lame, I stood behind the Police Station with Arthur, Lorne, and our cat Timoshenko, named after the Russian general who saw off the Germans at Leningrad, in order for my mother to take a photograph. My father Arthur Hunter Constable 197 in the East Sussex Constabulary fought on the Somme with the Second Battalion Coldstream Guards, and had been a sniper. Uneasy about the training and discipline of un- blooded troops stationed in the town, he cautioned Lorne as to the vulnerability of despatch riders to marksmen.
    In mid July 1944 Lorne and his Regiment left Uckfield without warning for France. My mother later told me that she had heard that Lorne had been killed in action, the circumstances of which were unknown. Some fifty years later in a house move back to Uckfield the photograph came to light, and so in retirement I set about identifying Lorne. Two hundred and sixty seven men of that Regiment were killed, two of whom were named Lorne. Following protracted correspondence with Canadian veterans and Record Offices, there appeared in the September 1996 issue of ‘Albainn’, the Veterans magazine of the Canadian Argyll and Sutherland Regiment, identification of Lorne as Lance Corporal Lorne Andrew Marr B46286, Signals Platoon, who had died at Igoville, France on 27th August 1944. A month later I visited his grave in the Calais Canadian War Cemetery. The veterans however had been unable to prove family history, and the cemetery records did not show next of kin. However several years later a book ‘The Maple Leaf Army in Britain’ by Peter Longstaff- Tyrell included the picture taken in Uckfield in 1944 and my photograph of the headstone in France. As a result of this in August 2004 I received a telephone call from Canada from a relative of Lorne Marr. A year later George Wilkinson, nephew of the deceased, and his wife, visited Sussex and we went to the graveside in France.
    Lorne Marr was one of six children, and had had a brother who had volunteered for the Army and had survived the War. Lorne was a dutiful son and prolific letter writer to members of his family. Many of the letters remain, with supporting photographs sufficient to fill three large albums. These included his service training in Canada, garrison duties in Jamaica, preparation for D- Day in the Uckfield area, and his last from France, a week before he was killed, when he was shot riding his motor cycle by a German sniper.


    I email the link to my friend in Canada who is an ASH Can Veteran. Just to see if he's seen it before.This is his reply.(edited)

    It's a small world allright.
    The attached picture is of George Wilkinson and myself, taken around June 1st,when I was in Ontario to visit family and friends.
    George and I have been in contact for some time as I knew his uncle Lorne Marr, who was killed in action at the battle of Igoville. on the Seine River, August 27, 1944.
    He is writing a story about the experience of finding information of his uncle.

    edited in, see photo of Art & George below.

    Here's Lorne's CWGC entry.

    Name:MARR, LORNE ANDREW
    Initials:L A
    Nationality:Canadian
    Rank:Lance Corporal
    Regiment/Service:Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders of Canada (Princess Louise's), R.C.I.C.
    Date of Death:27/08/1944
    Service No:B/46286
    Casualty Type:Commonwealth War Dead
    Grave/Memorial Reference:2. B. 9.
    Cemetery:CALAIS CANADIAN WAR CEMETERY, LEUBRINGHEN
     

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  2. Owen

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    Since I posted this I have been sent several photos of Lorne with his mates, Lorne with the two Hunter boys and Peter Hunter and George Wilkinson at Lorne's Grave.
    I would post them but I won't unless I have permission from George Wilkinson.

    Funny how I was Googling for the Canadians at Rouen but came across this story and now have Faces to the names.
    Used correctly the internet is bloody brilliant isn't it?

    Edit Attatched photo of Peter Hunter (whose leg was broken by Lorne)and George Wilkinson (Lorne's nephew) at Lorne's Grave.
     

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  3. Owen

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    May 1941
    Lorne standing on right.
     

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  4. Owen

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    Lorne on right training in BC, Canada.
     

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  5. Owen

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    Lorne with the Hunter boys.
    Peter, holding cat, had his leg broken by Lorne on his motorbike.
     

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  6. Jim Clay

    Jim Clay Member

    Used correctly the internet is bloody brilliant isn't it?

    Yes it is. Great story, evocative photos. Ta for sharing, Owen.

    Jim
     
  7. Owen

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    George,
    Hope you don't mind me posting this .
     

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  8. ErikH

    ErikH Senior Member

    Very interesting, thanks for sharing.
     
  9. Owen

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    George has sent me some more pictures.
    One of Lorne's Grave and one of the markers he left at ASH of Canada graves.

    My goal for this year is to visit Lorne too.
     
  10. Owen

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    Just have to post this from George last night.
    A picture from around 1928? Lorne pulling sleigh his sister
    and brother.Their Mother in doorway.
     

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  11. staceylee1012

    staceylee1012 Junior Member

    hmmm i think that is either my auntie eline(sorry if i didn't spell that right, i'm not very good with names, sorry george...) and i think that is my uncle ron. the youngest child wasn't born yet,my nana.
     
  12. Sorry Stacy, but thats Bernice and Dave
     
  13. Owen

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  14. Owen

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    Well we got to see him and got to Igoville too.
     
  15. Owen

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  16. alain cauchy

    alain cauchy 2nd Bn Gordon Highlanders

    this the map(I am listening how to manage this forum), if you can tell me aproximatly where is the bridge

    alain
     

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  17. alain cauchy

    alain cauchy 2nd Bn Gordon Highlanders

    Owen, you know that place don't you ? it is the same to day

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  18. Owen

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    alain,
    Just reading in the Argylls History that Bn HQ crossed the Seine at CRIQUEBOEUF and drove along the east-west road to Igoville .

    So that bridge they passed under would be the one I showed you on your profile.

    [​IMG]
     
  19. alain cauchy

    alain cauchy 2nd Bn Gordon Highlanders

    This is the railroad trestle at sotteville (not Igoville), from the east

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  20. alain cauchy

    alain cauchy 2nd Bn Gordon Highlanders

    This the picture of the houses near the bridge on the east, is it the wall you were talk[ing about ?

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    the third is the trestle from the West

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