WW2talk or WW2f ?

Discussion in 'Network Information, Suggestions and Feedback' started by Ron Goldstein, Aug 6, 2010.

  1. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    While I am not a member of WW2f I am pleased to say that I have great admiration for those people that tread water on both forums and contribute if you like, the "American" point of view.

    I also consider some of them "friends" although I have never met them in person.

    I must admit also to having "debate's" with a couple of members from "over there" (apologies Mr. Cohan.) on here years ago who are unable to debate without the benefit of hindsight about New Guinea and Australia however there was no malice.

    Being an Australian, I have put up with a few "digs" during those same debates about our numerical participation however there were not many places in WW2 where either an Australian Soldier, Sailor or Airman is not commemorated.

    I have never been to the US but know much about their history (Yes, Jeff, much of my geography knowledge from the Westerns). I have travelled to many of those war-torn islands of the south and central Pacific and have a great interest there as well.

    Them and us will keep going on however the greater percentage are level headed and like most on both, willing to learn something new everyday.

    Cheers

    Geoff
     
  2. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    Do you really think that "the West" was as it was portrayed in the movies, with gunfights in the streets and lawless gunslingers ruling the day? Not hardly.
    Oh? Next you're going to tell me there is no Santa!
     
  3. Oggie2620

    Oggie2620 Senior Member

    Being an Australian, I have put up with a few "digs" during those same debates about our numerical participation however there were not many places in WW2 where either an Australian Soldier, Sailor or Airman is not commemorated.



    Spidge me dear given what Australians gave in both WW1 & WW2 when they could have just said "nothing to do with us" especially in the European Theatre. They also would have been more involved if they had been allowed to (ie Operation Kingfisher) by some people so no one has the right to dig at you or the Kiwis!
    Dee :)
     
  4. Phaethon

    Phaethon Historian

    Oh? Next you're going to tell me there is no Santa!

    Za, I think there's some classic in-group/out-grouping going on in the original ww2f thread. To be honest, whilst a bit of banter is fine, I don't think there's a need for it to be taken quite so seriously given the respect the topic covered by both forums commands.

    ... So I think I'll keep out of this one (unless someone posts something which warrants another ridiculous poster)
     
  5. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Being a relative newcomer here I can tell you that there is a vast array of knowledge on ww2talk( this has increased my depth of understanding no end).
    I have found all members to be very supportive and understanding.
    I try to have a general WW2 interest and leave the expertise to the folk who do.
    Thats not to say I dont get involved (buying books and posting my thoughts)
    All members collecting info on fallen military personnel which without their sacrifice we would not be where we are today is a great project.
    Not to forget the Veterans who have given their Young years during WW2 to place volumes of real life information in the public domain.

    The banter across the divide is good as long as it is not taken to far.
    The spread of different personalities is also a bonus.

    The new members are growing and it is good to see they to have a valid input whether it be family research,posting info or assisting other forum members.


    So any forum is good provided the members are supportive and give and take.
    Sometimes one has a day out just to get a different view.
     
  6. Slipdigit

    Slipdigit Old Hickory Recon

    It is interesting that we support the "American" point of view. Of the top 25 posters, in terms of numbers of posts, 6 are Brits, 1 Finn, 1 Belgian (who lives in France), 1 Portuguese and 1 Australian. That is nearly half. Until last year, we had more moderators from Europe than we did the US. Finally, of the top 10 posters, 6 are from Europe.

    I think that part of the idea of an "American point of vew" came from the sheer volume of US political discussion that formerly went on. We have managed to squelch that down to acceptable levels and I intend to see that it stays that way. We go there to discuss WWII and I intend for it to stay that way.
     
  7. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Yeah, but Jeff, you alone equal about seventeen Americans, so maybe that explains the perception :D.

    Two Forums, one Canuck Owner (now domiciled among the septics), two rather different approaches to rattling on about WW2, with a certain amount of background cross-removal of the odd naughty nazi troll ... works for me.
    Some join both, some join one, some are even banned from one and not the other (only the aforementioned naughty Nazis are likely to be removed on both), all ticks over quite well really.

    And we all know it'd be a car-crash if the merging some have suggested in the past ever happened - so it won't. ;)
     
  8. Slipdigit

    Slipdigit Old Hickory Recon

    Yeah, but Jeff, you alone equal about seventeen Americans, so maybe that explains the perception :D.
    Har Dee Har Har Har:lol:
    Two Forums, one Canuck Owner (now domiciled among the septics),
    Don't forget, he is not far removed genealogically from Italy and spent a large portion of his formative years living in Oz.

    And we all know it'd be a car-crash if the merging some have suggested in the past ever happened - so it won't.

    Oh heck no.
     
  9. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Just out of interest's sake I made a comparison on how the same thread compares on both sites.

    It was started on ww2f and, todate, has received 45 posts and 476 viewings.

    I brought it over to ww2talk and todate it is: 48 posts and 1,052 viewings

    and, to quote Michael Caine, "Not a lot of people know about that" :)

    Ron
     
  10. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    Spidge me dear given what Australians gave in both WW1 & WW2 when they could have just said "nothing to do with us" especially in the European Theatre. They also would have been more involved if they had been allowed to (ie Operation Kingfisher) by some people so no one has the right to dig at you or the Kiwis!
    Dee :)

    A terrible state of affairs.

    Fromn: Massacres and Atrocities of WWII in the Pacific Region

    The code name for the rescue operation planned to liberate the Australian and British prisoners of war confined at Sandakan. In the planning stage for months under the direction of Australian General Sir Thomas Blamey and the Special Reconnaissance Department (SRD) the operation was bungled from the start owing to ineptitude, incompetence, petty jealousies and lack of decision making. The egosticistical US General Douglas MacArthur (not very popular in Australia) nevertheless gave it his unqualified support, but history has wrongly blamed MacArthur who became the scapegoat for Kingfisher's failure. Blamey stated that aircraft and ships were not available for the rescue operation, that MacArthur needed them for 'other purposes' (no doubt, the proposed invasion of Japan). After thirty years the Kingfisher files were released for public access. They show that the RAAF had a pool of around 40 Dakota DC-3s and B24 Liberators in hand and that only 30 were needed for the paratroop assault on Sandakan for which 800 paratroops had trained in the Atherton Tablelands in Queensland. (although they were never told for what purpose) After months of planning, the rescue operation never took place and so, 2,428 Australian and British POWs...died.
    When the war ended, 14,526 Australian POWs were liberated from Japanese prison camps. The Allied occupation of Japan formally ended on September 8, 1951.
     
  11. Mike L

    Mike L Very Senior Member

    Jeff/Adam, great to see a couple of admins sharing a bit of banter.
    On a serious note I viewed both forums before joining WW2Talk because, as a Brit, I felt it suited my areas of interest slightly better. No doubt many WW2F members did the same but from a slightly more American viewpoint.
    Nice to see mutual respect between the forums and many cross-postings too. We all share the same interest, perhaps with slightly different angles or areas of interest so why should we fall out? (apart from the odd bit of Septic or Tommy bashing which we should all treat with a GSOH).
    Jeff, if you ever get over to Blighty I would be honoured to buy you and Adam a few pints and a good pub meal. Might have to be Witherspoons though - a bit cheaper there!

    Mike
     
  12. Slipdigit

    Slipdigit Old Hickory Recon

    Jeff, if you ever get over to Blighty I would be honoured to buy you and Adam a few pints and a good pub meal. Might have to be Witherspoons though - a bit cheaper there!

    Mike

    I'll hold you to it. Of course, I'll have to find out where it is. It sounds like a disease. :lol: "Oh dear, I have the blighty. Could you carry me to see the doctor?"

    If any of you ever make to Alabama, THE tourist destination for the discerning European traveler, please plan on visiting with me. If you were to superimpose a map of Great Britain over Alabama, I am about where Lestershire is.
     
  13. A-58

    A-58 Not so senior Member

    They would enjoy going to New Orleans better.
     
  14. Slipdigit

    Slipdigit Old Hickory Recon

    They would enjoy going to New Orleans better.

    Yeah, but I don't live in the Cresent City...o_O
     
  15. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    They would enjoy going to New Orleans better.

    Well... at least the ones who can swim !:unsure:
     
  16. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    Do you really think that "the West" was as it was portrayed in the movies, with gunfights in the streets and lawless gunslingers ruling the day? Not hardly.

    No?

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    :D
     
  17. WhiskeyGolf

    WhiskeyGolf Senior Member

    Jeff, if you ever get over to Blighty I would be honoured to buy you and Adam a few pints and a good pub meal. Might have to be Witherspoons though - a bit cheaper there!

    Mike


    Mike try the Rose & Crown in Maldon - best cod & chips around :D
    WG
     
  18. Jan7

    Jan7 Senior Member

    As are two interesting Forums, I registered in both. Actually, I don't post much, but always in my readings, I discover new treasures that keep safe by subscription at certain threads.



    Jan.
     
  19. Mike L

    Mike L Very Senior Member

    I'll hold you to it. Of course, I'll have to find out where it is. It sounds like a disease. :lol: "Oh dear, I have the blighty. Could you carry me to see the doctor?"

    If any of you ever make to Alabama, THE tourist destination for the discerning European traveler, please plan on visiting with me. If you were to superimpose a map of Great Britain over Alabama, I am about where Lestershire is.

    Jeff, Blighty is an affectionate term for Britain (as in WW1 term 'by George my dear chap, I do believe thats a Blighty', which loosely translated means 'that wound will get you sent home for treatment:D).
    As for Lestershire I take it you mean Leicestershire?;).
    Still none the wiser mate, don't have a map of Alabama to hand, need to look up my atlas. In England I am in the County of Essex, North East of London but, confusingly, a London Borough, just inside the M25, the biggest car park - sorry, ring road - in Britain (maybe the world). I should know, I spend a lot of time most days parked - sorry - travelling on it!

    Might try the trip to Alabama!

    Mike
     
  20. A-58

    A-58 Not so senior Member

    Yeah, but I don't live in the Cresent City...o_O
    Me neither, but we can visit there. They'd get a kick out of the WW2 Museum.
     

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