WW2talk or WW2f ?

But we do have two years more to discuss.

Why two years?

 

Why two years?
WW2 commenced for GB in 1939 Yanks turned up in 1941

 

WW2 commenced for GB in 1939 Yanks turned up in 1941

, ok.

 

Almost 1942

 

Until this thread I was unaware of the other site, and joined WW2Talk when it came up on one of my research "googles". I still haven't looked at the other site because I enjoy this one too much - the serious side as well as the humourous
I joined feeling like I had nothing to offer, but curious to read what people had to say about WW2. I am now learning more than I ever thought I would, and enjoying what I am learning (dropped out of history at school because the teacher used to put me to sleep!)
I also like the friendly and welcoming feel of this site - so I guess you lot are stuck with me!

 

WW2 commenced for GB in 1939 Yanks turned up in 1941

 

But we do have two years more to discuss.

WW2 commenced for GB in 1939 Yanks turned up in 1941

We figured you Limeys could easily handle the situation without our help...again. Apparently we were mistaken. :p

 

Banter apart, WW2F is a great forum, full of good people with an immense reserve of knowledge. In the past I myself was a frequent user, but it was all becoming so vast that I decided to confine myself to a smaller forum with traffic that I could handle

 

Banter apart, WW2F is a great forum, full of good people with an immense reserve of knowledge. In the past I myself was a frequent user, but it was all becoming so vast that I decided to confine myself to a smaller forum with traffic that I could handle

Weenie

 

Diane, you cant quite agree with me goodness such a view at WW2F might well start a flame war of some proportions perhaps what I meant via Michelles post was that it seems that they.............. although I would hope not all have the viewpoint that she expresses, although having read and enjoyed Macrusks posts in the past I dont quite undersatnd why she would fell intimidated here.For me as one who came from WW2F to the Talk I find this forum much more informative with less arguments as for the interaction we all interact fine dont we I mean Im always getting sweet Pms & visitor messages from certain people

How very ironic that of the many posts on this site, I should find the one where I get quoted from the other site!!!

Perhaps I should add that as others stated, available time becomes an issue - as well as areas in which my expertise or skills can be helpful -have also affected the Forum of choice. RE inimidation, perhaps I should have qualified that in the time I've had available to spend here, the threads in which I looked, there was little new or different I could have contributed to the conversation.

At WW2F, I contribute most in the genealogical or information requests by finding multiple internet links - sometime ones I have and sometimes once I find for them, which gives me the opportunity to learn something new. It probably does come down to where one first starts, with whom one associates, and the time available. I still miss those who have migrated permanently or who rarely post any more at WW2F....

Glad to know I'm welcome either place.

 

Well whatever side of the Atlantic/World the forums bring a wealth of info and help and support.

Just think of all the people you have all helped.

 

I am certainly not intimidated by any forum, nor any of it's individual members. I know when I don't know something and lack of knowledge of a specific subject is nothing to be intimidated about, especially when there are so many other areas that a person can excel in.

I don't post a great deal here for a good many reasons, mainly that a goodly portion of the discussion doesn't always grab my interest and/or I know little about the subject, such as the minutae of British military organization and decorations. There just aren't that many books on the British military easily available in the US.

Since I am a Septic, as you lovingly refer to us, I choose not to comment on a host of subjects here of which I know nothing or very little. I would rather stay silent and be thought a fool, than to speak (or type, as the case may be) and remove all doubt. So, I sit here and read, reserving my comments where appropriate.

 

Jeff, dont be shy we know you are more than capable of putting in your tenpenith...........is there really that little available in the US with regrds to the Brit military

 

Jeff, dont be shy we know you are more than capable of putting in your tenpenith...........is there really that little available in the US with regrds to the Brit military

For the most part yes. General histories and biographies of prinicipal British leaders can be found, but I have not found much that gets down to the nuts and bolt of the organizations. There are some British books on the "marquee" events, such as the Battle of Britain, the Dam Busters, the Bismarck's run in the Atlantic (from the British point of view) and the like. I can find books on British sites, but postage across the Atlantic makes them expensive. I looked into doing a bookswap with someone in the UK at one time, but again...postage.

I fully understand that love of your own country will always have a strong influence over one's thinking and I often see statements here that gall me to no end. Most of the time, I let it ride, usually because I don't like to argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.

We can sit here argue best and worst among the national & military leadership, but how can any of it be quantified? It can't. As an example, I have read both Patton* & Montgomery's autobiographies. I found them equally irritating, with their pompous smugness. In their eyes, they never did anything incorrectly. Others reading the same books will draw differing opinions.;

*actually War As I Knew It. That was as close as he actually got before he died.

 

Being both British and American I can honestly say that, whilst yes ww2talk definitely as a british slant to it (and some members do come on here and make the mistake that they are talking to a completely british audience) it is by no means a Brit only forum. I have found the help and altruism offered by this forum to be extremely refreshing compared to elsewhere on the net, and have learnt a lot on topics that to be honest i would never normally have approached.

ww2talk is particularally nice given that Ww2 is such difficult topic to handle; especially in the sort of people it can *sometimes* attract, the difficult nature of discussing war, and the huge veriety in age of members... there's hardly a market niche for an age group (although the curve is definitely sloped towards older members).

Its nice to see that there is good will on other forums towards the academic side of ww2talk; ww2f seems like a reasonable place. I always find multiple forums on the same topic always (at least over time) attract a different flavour through their rules, topic policies... and mostly importantly... members. So i'm not surprised about some of the comments here (This is especially good when fallouts occur, which they inevitably do, as it at least gives you other options. But in the end, you stick to what you like).

 

Since I am a Septic, as you lovingly refer to us, ...
Oh? I hadn't noticed this but a Search does show a few instances. Not very pleasant, is it?

 

Oh? I hadn't noticed this but a Search does show a few instances. Not very pleasant, is it?

Naw, it doesn't really bother when I consider the source.

Think about it. A group of people who pride themselves on speaking "proper" English using a word from another group of people whose dialect can barely qualified as English.:p You know, sorta like the Ebonics spoken in our ghettos. YouTube - ‪Master Chief learns to speak ghetto‬‎

 

Jeff, I can understand you saying we have pride in our country but like your good self if someone is talking a load of bol!ocks then countryman or not you call them on it, thing is it does not seem to occur so much if at all on this forum and is part of the reason I left WW2F, other than the occasional post once in a while.As for the lack of Brit military books in the US its a crying shame......... and in the same way for me its the same over here as there are plenty of books on US units and WW2 I would like to be able to get, and the old Patton-Monty argument I think you about called that right

 

I often see statements here that gall me to no end. Most of the time, I let it ride, usually because I don't like to argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.

Jeff, that's quite a sweeping statement and it bothers me a bit. You seem to be implying either that there are a lot of idiots on this forum or that one or two are being given free reign by the other members to post rubbish and quite honestly, I don't believe that either.

On the other hand, I'm pretty sure that you of all people know precisely when the congenital piss-takers here are fishing for the ex-colonials who are always first to bite I've seen your posts. You can do it with the best of 'em !

I think that you also have to understand that we have been fighting a propaganda war against your film industry since the cessation of hostilities (or perhaps a bit earlier !). We're bound to be a bit touchy.

I'm only active on one transatlantic military forum and that's 'Maple Leaf Up' - Not many septics there either actually !

 

Jeff, that's quite a sweeping statement and it bothers me a bit. You seem to be implying either that there are a lot of idiots on this forum or that one or two are being given free reign by the other members to post rubbish and quite honestly, I don't believe that either.

On the other hand, I'm pretty sure that you of all people know precisely when the congenital piss-takers here are fishing for the ex-colonials who are always first to bite I've seen your posts. You can do it with the best of 'em !

I think that you also have to understand that we have been fighting a propaganda war against your film industry since the cessation of hostilities (or perhaps a bit earlier !). We're bound to be a bit touchy.

I'm only active on one transatlantic military forum and that's 'Maple Leaf Up' - Not many septics there either actually !

Almost to the man, the forum has good guys and I guess I would need to define "often."

The people who carry weight around here do not delve in such behavior, quite the contrary. There is the bit of fun sniping at each other of the type that good friends do and I welcome it.

I think you would be surprised at the amount and regularity of informal interaction that occurs between this forum's leadership and the leadership of WW2F. I am at WW2F what "von Poop" is here, but with middle class Southern accent. Trust me, Adam is aware when I get all riled up about something, which does not happen on a regular basis. I expect no less from him, where WW2F is concerned. If I ever get to the British Isles, there are many there that I am going to make a special effort to visit. My wife is going to have to accept that.

Hollywood. I am not a fan of them myself and my list of disliked WWII films is far longer than those I like. I accepted a long time ago that the primary job of the film companies was to make money and to that end they are going to make films aimed at the lowest common denominator. Historical accuracy was going to take a decided backseat, if it was in the vehicle at all. Consider this: Do you really think that "the West" was as it was portrayed in the movies, with gunfights in the streets and lawless gunslingers ruling the day? Not hardly. I sleep better now that I accept that Hollywood will never portray history correctly, unless it will make money for them. That is just the way it is.

Thanks for the comments!